Posted by BRUTUS on September 13, 2002 at 00:57:59:
In Reply to: Re: Metaphors of Healing in WTC Design proposals posted by Kevin Matthews on September 12, 2002 at 23:02:44:
can you think of any temples where the focal point is the top of a pyramid?
yes of course ,the Sumerian,Babylonian,and Assyrian Ziggurats were good examples
similarly Mayan temples were also,were actual circulation involved,and physical ascension is included,ceremony were held at the pinnacle and the physical presence of the participants is a need.
on the other hand Egyptian pyramids were a mere philosophical symbolism,an implied circulation,it evokes a visual & spiritual ascension.both of the examples (in my opinion)did shared the abstraction of a real sacred mountain with its most sacred spot(the highest peak),clearly found naturaly in many civilizations:Fuji for japanese,Kilemenjaro for Africans,many mountain peaks for Ancient Cannanite...etc
the Teotihuacan in Mexico is an interisting example,it shows this dual nature of religious architectural spaces,it was built on the top of an ancient sacred cave for Aztec people,does that imply a thing?
you said: negative space always the focal point in a cave, I say yes the cave is the perfect "natural,spontaneous negative space" i agree with that,but did all the parts of the cave interior is the same,in that i totally disagree,was Lascaux a random choice for ancient people?
did the ancient chose ANY RANDOM -ive space for their rituals?,i mean they surely lived in shallow caves of course, but were they the same caves for their rituals?,both of the places are negative spaces!
why they chose the farthest,deepest,hardiest to reach using the flickering light of a primitive torch,sometimes crawling for a long narrow distances,penetrating a couple of dark kilometers deep down the mountains!why?
was it a random naive choice,for any negative space?
you said :what else there in a cave ?
i believe most of the prehistoric caves were composed of a complex networks connected by interlocked chambers,only SOME of the deepest chambers were chosen!
because it had a special psychological an acoustical properties that evoked the primal imaginations of our ancestors.
are the most modern sacred temples tries to evoke in a superficial methods these ancient sacred places,i personally think yes!
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