feedback on my portfolio:

[archspace]

Hi everyone, Just created a portfolio in Flash and wanted to get some feedback. Please let me know what you think. Thank you all kindly.


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[rizzdizzle]

i like the flash but your project is pretty lame.....i saw better stuff in my highschool architecture class, even though no one gave a f@#$. Im sorry but i have to be brutaly honest....why did you spend sooooo much time making that one model that looks like every freaking house in america. Maybe i just hail the avant-garde but spending a large amount of time on a bland house design is dissapointing......Where do you go to school? (so i dont send my children there) please tell me you're the worst one in your studio. Sorry to criticise you so heavily, but ou need to take a step back and research good architecture. look up antoine predock,or check out this book called small houses contempoary architecture. Maybe your proffs have been lying to you and are scared to beat you as they should....but something like that needs to be torn apart in a crit. Also what was the basis for the project? do you have any other examples of your work? WHat year are you? do you smoke crack? sorry...its just that art you can bullshit, but architecture you should not....

[rizzdizzle]

its a cool website however and i like your idea of incorporating your portfolio, very professional....i also have to give you props for posting your work...very gutsy....you got crazy people like me ready to snap off on anything they dont like.

[archspace]

Rizzdizzle, What is your problem ?? Didn't anyone ever tell you if you've got nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.

I asked for feedback on the flash portfolio ! never asked for feedback on my images. But I guess you felt you had to bring someone else down, to make yourself feel better.




Anthony

[rizzdizzle]

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:59 pm Post subject: feedback on my portfolio:

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Hi everyone, Just created a portfolio in Flash and wanted to get some feedback. Please let me know what you think. Thank you all kindly.






pretty much.....you asked for criticism and i gave you feedback..Im sorry i was so critical but i was just being honest. Your portfolio was wak so commented on it. I did praise you on the flash but couldnt enjoy it to the fullest, because the quality of work in your portfolio was horrendous. I have gotten negative feedback in the past but i learn from it. I had one teacher this year that said "oh thats pretty, i like that, cute" to anybodys work, not mater how rushed or incomplete it was. That really pissed me off. That doesnt help you learn...good teachers break their students down and then build them back up. . As for me...i was only trying to help you....i could have been a lot less of a bastard, but i dont think i did anything wrong. i do not get joy out of talking about how bad your work was, in fact i wish you were good because the portfolio would be amazing
and i might learn something....furthermore i would like to leave you some advice...............spend less time on the computer and more time learning architecture....oh thats only if you want to be an architect

[Alvafamila]

Jesus rizz, your about as helpful as an asshole on an elbow…Where did you learn how to cirt?

I have got to admit that the work that you show really doesn’t define you or the work that you have done. The website actually feels incomplete. That is the reason you cant achieve any real crit. With the work that you do have try explanations that really engage the viewer into what your doing. The work you have, albeit commonplace, seems technical, its looks like many of the projects that M.I.T do for their structural analysis projects. Check them out…www.mit.edu. or check out Renzo Pianos website, this is an amazing man, his work is right at the cutting edge of design. www.renzopiano.com

Or, try to do some conceptual work that could define you as a person and some of the ideals in architecture your interested in. If that is the technical aspect of architecture try to do some details that could help explain the intricacies of your ideas.

By the by, there is no reason why you should listen to any of the crits that you get. You have neither seen our work nor really engaged the people on this website about there ideals. The best crits come from experienced professionals or your peers who understand you and your ideas. Try to ask them; you’ll most likely get better responses than

"like the flash but your project is pretty lame.....i saw better stuff in my highschool architecture class, even though no one gave a f@#$. Im sorry but i have to be brutaly honest....why did you spend sooooo much time making that one model that looks like every freaking house in america"

The best and brightest teachers in the world offer insight and positive reinforcement, the worst teachers in the world offer negative reinforcement to try and push indoctrination of thought...example...

"look up antoine predock,or check out this book called small houses contempoary architecture"

Sure, look them up if you want to copy everyone else.

Just keep plugging away, and don’t worry about shitty crits. Oh and rizz, there is nothing avant-guard about your crit, in fact, its about as lousy as a my high school female gym teacher who was about 500 pounds and telling all the guys to run faster, see, its all ass backwards…

[rizzdizzle]

yeah sure....I would have given better feedback yet there were only about 4 different images that really had no context at all. I was mereley commenteing on how lackluster his effort in arch school was. Furthermore i gave suggestions for him to actually research good architecture not copy it. It looks like the only architecture archspace has seen in his life has been shitty residential house that all look the same. His house design is very similar to my grandmothers house in a run down area of PA. Maybe that is the "new asthetic" he was aiming towards yet its garbage. School should be a time of experimentaion but also incoporating practical issues. It is no secret that one learns from other students as well as famous architects but also the world around him. The mnore architecture you research the bigger your achitectural vocabulary and pallette. I like his actual site and think that it is fairly impressive. yes it could use dome work yet most people could never create a portfoliop site out of the blue. By the way i wasnt trying to post an avant-garde crit (how could a crit be avant0garde sucker) and i know i was being an ass, i just had to break it to him that his work was lame, ok lacking. Maybe youve had teacher all your life who candy coated your crits with lies (probably) the best crits are the ones that open your mind to ideas that you never had before about a project, or alternative paths you could have taken. If you dont want bastards like me commenting on work than dont post it...i just hate people who fish for complements or expect everyone to praise them. Yes architecture is subjective yet any third rate arcitect ( or monkey with herpes) could tell how bad that project was.

[Alvafamila]

Any third rate ARCHITECT (or monkey with herpes) could tell how bad your spelling is...

spelling mistakes:

mereley
commenteing
asthetic
experimentaion
incoporating
mnore
achitectural
pallette
portfoliop
arcitect

Maybe before you crit, you should learn to spell or just make coherent sentences. I hope you dont design buildings like you crit. You go to Risd??? I was going to apply there for grad school, maybe I should reconsider???

[archspace]

Rizzdizzle, That chip-board model was something I did the beginning of my second year. It happens to be the Trubeck House created by Robert Venturi, Pritzker Prize Laureate
Nantucket Island, Massachusetts, USA




Anthony

[rizzdizzle]

i am familar with that house...actually both of them . Not a very good reproduction to say the least. I also am not too fond of his architecture, just my opinion....also why would you copy someone elses work? Well i actually should shut up because i had one teacher who did this..."learning by study". Not the best way to teach, the problems outweigh the benefits of self exploration. Furthermore you failed to captue the essence of the house(s) as their stark white nature, and verticallity is what sets them apart from the surroundings and creates a temple like presence upon the landscape. "Also the two houses turn toward each other as intitiating a conversation" (look up vincent sullys review of those houses). Nonetheless your placements and detailing of the windows is well off, basically you failed to show how these houses are different from my grandmas house. I understand i cant give a informative crit yet i know the house well and failed to recognize it from your model. Maybe i was too drunk or maybe you should have done a better job.

[rizzdizzle]

oh yeah ALVAFAMILIA...my reply to your post was removed because i said something offensive...so i'll tone it down.

its funny when people attack other people for not being able to spell correctly on internet posts.....Arkitks doent havv two spel dun goode too bee a goode arkiteck. What are you a spelling bee champion?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Do u lack wit and a clever attitude???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I kant belive u maed a list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kudos to u

also RISD is better for undergrad than grad...so im better than you are...............if you do go to RISDeez nutz.....than i challenge you to a duel

When september 30-2005
Where 3rd floor BEB

bring any architools you want, i'll be shanking with my heavy duty OLFA knife and long sword (36 inch t square)....i also have trix up my leave such as a botttle of methalyne chloride (check the spelling on that im a stupid art student) to squirt into your eyes........ il sea u on the batlefeild

[johnson]

i must admit, i agree with rizzdizzle about the spelling thing. it's pretty stupid to make spelling mistakes a point of argument, and kind of redundant don't you think.

on the other hand, rizzdizzle i completely agree with you about criticism, but i believe it should be constructive criticism and not negative, condescending criticism which is what you were leaning towards.

archspace, if we as architectural students were only told 'nice things' about our work, we would be really crap architects. we wouldn't know our ass from our brain and if you really can't hack criticism, well then it's going to be a long hard path through architecture for u mate

[archspace]

Johnson and Rizz, Maybe I failed to make my point perfectly "clear" but those are just random images placed into a flash slideshow I wanted feedback on.
Rizz then took the liberity to blast me on things he really has to idea about!


The BOTTOM-LINE, nice crit or bad crit he should have not said the things he said. He knows perfectly well too, he would never say those things to someones face. But hiding behind his computer, he'll say almost anything.




Anthony

[rizzdizzle]

when someone asks for feedback on a portfolio....AS YOU DID:Hi everyone, Just created a portfolio in Flash and wanted to get some feedback. Please let me know what you think. Thank you all kindly.
Most people assume you want feedback on your work, because few people actually create websites for portfolios. When you put your own work up on a website you are inviting criticism from some of the most critical people on earth...ARCHITECTS....i admit i should not have been that negative, and am sorry i didnt give you much constuctive critiscm. The reason i was sooo criticial because i had no idea what those projects were for, and to the casual viewer they looked like crap. You should have had some information in your portfolio to describe the type of project, or at least give some background information, as this is common practice in even the most unproffesional portfolios. I interpreted those projects as being your best work or thesis, because if i was creating a portfolio thats what i would put in. I jumped to a conclusion, yet i know what i am talking about and that house doesnt look anything like the Trubek house, or site. I looked at your webpage and those images (of random work you just happen to use) have somehow also found their way into your logo and are the only viewable pics on the site. Sorry but bad ideas lead to bad results....The truth is that those images were of your best work and you have probably been spending too much time making the flash interface and website when you should have been working on somethin else to display in the portfolio....I also dont think showing copied work is acceptable in a portfolio, especially when you dont give credit to the original architect. Does Robert Venturi know your trying to pass his work off as your own??????? Watch out for that copyright infringement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also....it is true i have a computer to hide behind, but if people try to pass of crap as art or architecture ( as is sometimes the case at risd) i'll let them know to their face. This is not because i find joy in bringing people down, but because i feel cheated when i work hard on something and other people rush through it because they're lazy.[/b]

[archytorture32]

Has anyone ever heard of constructive criticism? Try going to a crit and having people look at your work and tell you it sucks in front of 50 people including your peers? I mean honestly you people keep blasting this poor guy Rizz and it is uncalled for. You asked for feedback and got it. So knock it off. Granted he was blunt but most people. Stop snapping at him and listening to what he had to say because you can normally improve your work. ( I did not get chance to see the portfolio it is no longer up).