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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: The Timeless Way of Architecture |
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All this discussion on the temporal, the ephemeral, the illusions to time and nature evoke an emotional response that is at the essence of the philosophical question of the inherent nature of time. Time can be seen as a fluid. It exists, just as matter, due to energy, motion ,space. Particularly, it is intricately linked to motion, to movement, to currents of energy as they fluctuate through space. Just like space, there can be temporal time distortions and distortions of the energy fabric that makes up matter.
In architecture, we are only concerned with time as it relates to our temporal experience, not as it pertains to the eternal ephemeral qualities of time. Time essentially is possible due to the movement of matter and energy. Without this movement, matter would cease to exist, as the forces of the universe are in constant motion. It is this motion that enables the framework of time. If we can create a static state of true inertia, by temporal distortions of the time/space/energy/motion equation, then in essence we can alter the equation of time.
Time, as energy and matter, must be perceived. Without a point of reference, it becomes irrelevant. The same applies to any architectural perception. It must be perceived within a larger framework as dictated by our perceptions, conditioning and emotional response. Thus, when we begin to understand the nature of the universe and the inter-working of how we perceive the reality around us, we begin to realize that all is connected. This connection allows our mind to re-interpret the reality around us and project a new reality into our existing as well as into our architectural solutions. All we do and think is related to our perceptions and connection or lack of connection to energy/time/space and matter, the environment around us, our conditioning factors and the way we perceive the world around us.
Establishing a greater connection to the time/ spirit of a place allows us to evoke feelings and design ideas that are more connected to the local context in which we operate, or at the time during which the creations were elaborated. The same applies to the reality we project into the future. If we are pessimists, we will project more of the same into the future. If we are optimists, creative, have vision, have ideas, we project a new reality into the future. So in essence, if we think of time as a mere series of events, we live eternally in the present and loose our connection with the past and the future. By re-locating our energy to the study of the past, we can better contextualize the present. We begin to realize time is more then a sequence of events. There is a connection between past and present thought and endeavor and what we project as possible or plausible into the future.
All this may be somewhat theoretical, seem mystical, seem "new age", call it what you may, but the undeniable truth is that we are all connected to the energy and world around us as related to space/time/matter in a way we do not even realize. When we begin to change our thoughts in the present, our perspective of the past and future begins to change. We realize that due to this connection, we must place ourselves in more connection to these elements. And, at the same time, in better connection to the architecture of the past and the possibilities of the future.
Our re-shaping of our current way of thinking and perceived reality re-shapes and re-defines the flow of intellectual energy as it projects itself into the future. It has an undeniable immediate effect on the way we organize energy states as they pertain to the architectural environment. So to call Feng-Shui and related ways of thinking as "irrational", mystic and strange only reveals our Western ignorance as to the connection of energy states with the world around us, especially the architecture we design. One may not adapt Feng-Shui as a design philosophy, but still be able to establish a connection between our architecture and the environment around us, and it's temporal qualities, such as Mr. Wright did in "Falling Water" and many great architects have done in contextualizing their architecture to the flow of energy, time, matter and the natural surroundings. Architecture that is immortal maintains a balance in it's connection to these elements, establishing a harmonious design that is in intricate connection to the world around us, and thus becomes the true "Timeless Way" of designing architecture.
Mr. Nelson
Project Liquid Universe Coordinator
http://www.globaldeveloper.net/
Inventor, Architect, Artist, Scientist, Writer, Poet, Mechanic, Musician, Philosopher, Researcher.
"The theory of Gravitational Kinnetics of Motion".
"Terrestrial Transportation System X".
"The Gravitational Cancellation Theory".
"Energy States and Their Relation to Renewable Energy".
"The Model of an Atom as a Source of Renewable Energy"
"Magnetic Cancellation Theory".
"A Blue-Print For the Computer of the Future"
"The New Internet and Data Transmission System"
"The New Global Connectivity Platform"
Scientific theory with a universe of possibilities in mind.
"Concept Follows Context"
Our greatest strength is not in our individuality of effort, but in our unity of ideas, global connectivity and force of mass collaboration.
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csintexas millennium club
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:36 am Post subject: |
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How can a person understand if they don't ask why? I've been acknowledging the right of everyone to use what ever system they choose from the start of this discussion. Asking the questions -what is the porpose? what do we gain?, is there a better way? -is a valid part of any discussion.
Just because I don't readily buy into this philosophy does not mean that you two can't further your own ideas. Total agreement between all parties is not a necessary condition. _________________ -Chris Stewart
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: This is ludicrous |
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Is that really so Chris ? And if one doesn't buy into your designs, or a hoarding of "intellectual cyberspace" by one individual, such as in your topic in the residential design forum, then others are not invited to disagree and place a post there ?
In my opinion, if these forums were used for designers to hoard the topics, there would be so many designers posting their latest design with no right of other individuals to post objecting comments, out of context posts or post that might compromise the designers right to maintain that topic for the exclusive use of the posting of his design, and nothing else, as you do.
Here you claim to be allowing finally for alternate viewpoints, but in reality this is has not been the case in other topics. To the contrary, you have undermined many discussion topics I have engaged in previously, and ridiculed my own projects and aspirations. You have called my ideas "wacky", "unrealizable sci-fi dreams", and that I am doing nothing new, it already all exists, and that my agendas have no value, no relevance to architecture, calling my projects unrealizable fantasies, dream worlds, and on and on..... your criticisms reached astronomical proportions at one point along the way....
You have then proceeded, at the same time, to interject, and undermine with faint, grotesque, simplified and reductionist arguments and objections to powerful arguments, agendas, topics and subjects that others post when trying to promote their own discussion.
You don't make sense Chris. If you wish to participate in an intellectual discussion, this would be appreciated. By why post foolish comments all over the place just to undermine the efforts of any discussion ? What are you trying to do ? So you believe you are the owner of your own posts and there can be no objections or space for alternating viewpoints within your own individual own little worlds of discussion? (Look at your comments and reactions to me in your own little post on the "Latest Design", in the residential design section of these communities. You seem free in other discussions, to interject with illogical statements that do not understand the topic at hand.
You are not making any sense anywhere.
So is the poster the owner of the post and only he can decide if another post is out of context, undesired?
In Architecture, we may have Complexity and Contradiction, but not of this type. This is a complete contradiction of terms, of do as I say but don't do as I do type of thinking. The same applies to Riversong's posts on many subjects.
It's high time we stop playing games and engage in true intellectual discussion in these forums. No more need for "meat grinding***1", smart-spam, reductionist, undermining, sarcastic and poorly elaborated critique and comment of complex intellectual issues.
For reference to term "meet grinding", please see post -->>
http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17895&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
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csintexas millennium club
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Sometimes you make since and at other times you really say strange things. _________________ -Chris Stewart
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: An Initial Level of Reaction |
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Our perceptions of what is "strange" and what "makes sense" is inherently a part of our framework of perception.
Many ideas that Einstein formulated at his time could be considered as "strange", out of place, dis-contextualized, unacceptable, and out of tune with the science of the time.
Only time and the research of thousands of scientists was able to completely if not totally prove many of his theories. Others have been left to be completely proved and others have been re-formulated.
The important thing is that scientific thought always encounters this level of initial reaction. |
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: "Des-Integrate and Re-Structure Mental Energy" |
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My understanding is that we are not completely "understood on thought", as the discussion implies to suggest to obtain.
Perhaps one could argue there is a need to de-construct thought and then re-organize it in order to understand the design process.
Or, as stated, "Des-Integrate and Re-Structure Mental Energy". This could be understood as a synergy of new liberal, creative thinking that takes into consideration the philosophical points of view. |
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: To Dis-Associate and Re-Connect the Tempora&Ephemeral |
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As a continuation to this discussion, a point of agreement was reached that we must dis-associate the temporal from the ephemeral. The two can be only understood in the "sublimity" of understanding. The connection can be made at the conscious level, by the application and understanding of the problem at hand. Our mind can magically establish the connection, when we are more connected by intuition rather then rationalization. As Quick Dimension said, it relates to a "sublimity of understanding", where upon reflection of these two experiences, we are able to supplement the missing connection in a practical application, making the two experiences real and ultimately connected in our design solution.
[i]Now, our reasoning must come together to begin to see the light revealed in the energy of thought, which translates itself into the Linguistics of architectural thought.
Language is at the core of sensible imagination. If we can create a code of language, we in essence can create a world. Take the example of a writer of the series of fantasy stories. He creates a new language, a new code and thus creates a universe of thought that leads to concrete form.
If we brake this down into it's relationship to science, we end up with -->>
1. Pre-existing eternal mystery, ultimate sublime pre-existing thought, the order of the universe, the pre-existing eternal force. This is contained in an intelligent spiritual being. This leads to -->>
2. Reason, thought, logic. This logic creates "LANGUAGE"
3. LANGUAGE gives birth to energy, which gives birth to encoding of energy into FORM.
4. This form produces a substance of a SHAPE.
5. This shape can be described as a language of codes that gave birth to this shape.
So all the other elements fall somewhere in the spectrum.
We have all the building blocks in the universe.
An intelligent being - related to THOUGHT, LANGUAGE, ENERGY, FORM
Thought - gives birth to LANGUAGE. Language creates energy -->>
Energy - the building block of time and matter.
Time - a equation of the motion of energy.
We can see light is actually a form of energy.
So if we have E=MC2
Energy equals Mass times the speed of light square.
We are in essence saying energy equals mass times the time it takes energy to transverse space, which is the building block of mass.
It would be better to say
Energy = Mass x the time it takes for energy to transverse the space between the eternal and the spatial limitation of it's containment.
E = M(TimeofTransversalOverContainedSpace).
or
E = M (T of transversal of the energy over the limited space)
Thus, when we release atomic energy, our energy will be a function of the limited mass in relation to the time of transversal of this mass over space until it transforms itself completely into energy).
Thus, energy is in a sense eternal if mass is present in some form.
Without energy we do not have time.
Time is due to the movement of energy in space.
So in essence we have
Time = energy times speed of the speed of light divided by the Mass of the Universe
T = Ex(C/M)
Or, the speed of light distributed over the mass of the universe produces time.
So, from this, we have -->>
Ex(C/M) = T
We know the speed of light is almost infinite. Mass is finite. Energy is finite. So in this equation, only time is infinite, as long as mass and energy are present. When mass and energy cease, time would cease. But in reality, energy never ceases, so therefore time never ceases. It only re-constitutes itself into matter. Thus, we have found a relationship between time, energy and God. All these 3 seem eternal. God is before time, he is before energy, he is eternal and gave birth to energy and time, under this model.
So we can see if we have Time, combined with Energy, we have an almost infinite speed in which this energy can transpose itself over the mass that contains it.
Time is possible by this movement of energy.
So we must create a new formula -->>
E =
T
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C/M
Matter - an equation of the motion of energy and time.
Reformulated, we have
E = TM/C
In this formulation, time is an almost infinitely large number. It is a universal constant. It is a measure of the rate engergy released from a mass transposes or distributes itself over space when the mass reaches the velocity of light.
It can be expressed as T = EC/M
The greater the Mass, the greater the energy released. The division of Energy to mass will always produce a constant value, as energy or mass moves at the speed of light.
Thus, if we can change the energy state of a mass, we can alter the universal constant of time! Voyla !
We have reached a new discovery !
Similar to Einsteins formulation, we could alter his formula and invert the value C, if we consider T to be a universal constant almost equal to the speed of light to read -->>
Thus, we have another possibility --->>>
or E = TMC
or T = E/MC
or C = E/TM
Thus a temporal distortion of time can be created by changing the energy state of matter or by changing the mass as contained in a fix energy body. So if we can keep the energy in the body constant and change is mass, we can alter time or the perception of time. If we alter this value T for a universal constant U, we end up with -->>>
or E=UMC
where U = Universal force of equilibrium as defined by energy in movement. Almost equal in value to the speed of light.
Where E = Energy
T= Time
C = Speed of light
M = Mass
In this equation, energy is equal to Time( almost unlimited) divided by the speed of light(almost unlimited), distributed over a mass.
If we have two infinite numbers divided by each other, the greater infinite number will win.
All these elements in the equation must either be finite, or some are infinite.
We cannot say time is unlimited, as it is related to energy being distributed over mass. But it can be a universal constant of nearly unlimited value.
Mass and energy are not unlimited. Only the creative force is unlimited.
So in essence, which is greater in infinite value, time or the speed of light ?
At first glance, we cannot know. Time could be greater. If time is greater then the speed of light distributed over a mass, then we can see we have energy not simply canceling two elements in the equation. We can see that if time and the speed of light were equal, they would cancel themselves. But if we have time being a greater value then the speed of light, then we have as a result, an incredible amount of Energy being released when we allow an a limited mass, to transpose itself over time within the speed of light. In essence, when mass reaches the speed of light, it des-integrates into energy. This proves the equation, as we have in effect 1 = 1 on both sides !
This equation goes to show, further, that the mass in the universe is infinitely small in relation to the energy and time it contains ! We can brake the formula apart and end up with
M =
C/T(E)
Where M= Mass of the Universe
C = speed of light
T = Time - an infinite number
E= a Finite number
We know the element Time is infinite. So if we divide a limited number, the SPEED of light by TIME times the ENERGY of the universe, we end up with a very small number ! Thus most of the universe is made up of MUCH energy and LITTLE Mass !
We know this to be the case, as the majority of the atom is energy and not mass. Mass in essence is only a materialization of energy in predictable, concentrated pockets of energy in space that are in movement and thus create a framework for time. This energy exist from the atomic level up in cycles of movement. These cycles of movement generate a stable pocket of energy. To release energy in matter, one must disrupt the pocket of energy in movement, held together by gluons. The gluon force is so incredibly strong, that only extreme atomic dis-stabilization can disrupt the balance of the pockets of energy.
Thus, we could say energy, when slowed down into cycles, produces time and matter !
We thus have the new building blocks and formula for the constitution of the universe ! So E=MC2 cannot be taken as an inflexible rule.
We have, in essence, re-discovered the codes of the universe.
Then one can't re-invent the wheel ?
Mr. Nelson
Project Liquid Universe Coordinator
http://www.globaldeveloper.net/
Inventor, Architect, Artist, Scientist, Writer, Poet, Mechanic, Musician, Philosopher, Researcher.
"The theory of Gravitational Kinnetics of Motion".
"Terrestrial Transportation System X".
"The Gravitational Cancellation Theory".
"Energy States and Their Relation to Renewable Energy".
"The Model of an Atom as a Source of Renewable Energy"
"Magnetic Cancellation Theory".
"A Blue-Print For the Computer of the Future"
"The New Internet and Data Transmission System"
"The New Global Connectivity Platform"
Scientific theory with a universe of possibilities in mind.
Our greatest strength is not in our individuality of effort, but in our unity of ideas, global connectivity and force of mass collaboration.
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P.C. millennium club
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:42 am Post subject: |
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"Language is at the core of sensible imagination. If we can create a code of language, we in essence can create a world. "
In essens computer languages that work with symbols can be constructed by just five main words, but I fail to see how a language that is here to describe things presant, can construct a new world, words and symbols don't create they describe . It is true that in that sense a lot of new "words" are constructed new technologies and technikes new oppotunities and different way's to make things ---- but I think it is more important that there are a vision about the whole thing, something simple to grasp something that effect the average person his life and oppotunities. Simple things as new houses, new jobs and the promises of a better world , things like that is a better drive than further scientific understanding, ---- why develob and conect if there are not a concrete idear with it, architecture can't even provide or deliver the new houses called for, is there a reson to construct an intire ideology if what is needed is cheap new homes and a new architecture. |
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birgco
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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We possess the tools and technology to effect global change for the better right now. What we lack is the political leadership and will to accomplish this.
If I (as an individual) can build a house using alternative techology, that produces the same energy it consumes, others will follow suit because it makes economic and environmental sense. Mass production will mean lower prices, lower cost will mean mass implementation on a larger and larger scale. This may be a slow process, but it is realistic, works right now and maybe our only hope to reverse a downward environmental spiral.
We cannot be afforded the luxury of reinventing the wheel. In addition to ignorance and greed, the enemy is time. |
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: Regarding "Mass Appeal" |
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Hello P.C.
To understand how a language can construct a new world, please refer to the discussion on " Concept" in Architecture, as many principles to illustrate this are posted there.
It is true that any new ideology must have a mass appeal. This thought has occurred to me as well. The mass appeal only results after much investment and time is spent by the thinkers and shapers. For example, if NASA develops a "TANG" like orange concentrate, it takes much investment first to develop the "TANG". Once the "TANG" is mass produced, you have a mass appeal. You cannot crate a mass appeal for something that needs to be developed by the technological and scientific community first.
As birgco stated, it is a slow process but realistic, and will only be appealing to the populace the moment it is cheaper, more technologically advanced, more feasible and makes more sense. Now, to imply time is our enemy in scientific endeavor is a little extreme. If the great inventors of the past were to adopt an apocalyptic view, then many of the greatest inventions and scientific developments would never have been realized. So it is our postulations that either open our mind to explore, or restrict us into believing there is no time, no political will and no way we can alter the basic equations as passed on to us by former generations. |
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birgco
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently I need to restate my previous post in more precise "language".
STOP TALKING AND START DOING, TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
WE DON'T NEED A NEW LANGUAGE OR DO WE NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
CURRENT ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY AND BUILDING METHODS CAN CHANGE THE WORLD NOW.
IF YOU KEEP TALKING AND DO NOTHING, ROME WILL BURN.
IGNORING THE FACTS DON'T CHANGE THE FACTS. ..... NOW GET GOING!
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: A General Lack of Creativity |
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It can be clearly seen in these forums that there are those who are good at creating an environment for argument, rather then the exchange of ideas. New developments and ideas cannot begin in such a climate of tension and contradiction. It seems there are many who argument against ideas, but themselves have no ideas to post. Further, as stated in the topic of "concept in architecture"-->>
There is a need in science to begin first with postulations. This is the development of scientific theory. These can be further refined, modified and perfected until one obtains a more perfect model of reality, or as close as possible, since no model can be said to be completely perfect, as the study reveals.
Issues most important, of Time in the Equation, of the possibility of changing energy states of an atom, of the idea that a simple formula like E=MC2 cannot perfectly represent all the variables in the Time/Energy/Motion/Matter relationship. It brought up some crucial issues that need further exploration in science before they can be fully proven. But the moment of inspiration is what gives great men like Einstein the insight into more complex phenomena, that only time and energy can refine and bring into relationship with the universe in a clear scientific manner. Much of science is not so exact and precise as we would assume, as much is theory even today. So many scientific postulations in existence today cannot be fully understood, and nor can many scientific observations of sub-atomic particles completely explain the complex physics involved in micro processes and energy states that cannot be fully explained in a scientific model.
If someone wishes to challenge such postulations in a truly scientific way, this is one way to do it. But to simply reply with over-simplification of the issues, or obvious rebuttals of validity seems only to be a mind game of questioning ideas that are intended to inspire, and bring forth new possibilities and not to produce and ultimate supreme model to describe the universe we live in.
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P.C. millennium club
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: |
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"insight into more complex phenomena,"
Yes but please understand that all the top priority tasks , new houses to be build, bringing a new insight into how structures are constructed, by computer is not challancing architecture at all. I want nice new cheap houses , but not only that I offer a cheap way to do so, it might also require you acturly are a tallented artist, when you want to build a new house at a fifth. of what it otherwise would cost ; yes there are challances, and new materials shuld be develobed, in fact new materials are not as importans as a platform to develob various sheet materials, variously fittet for different porpus in a building structure, in fact the mashin can find a better suited material by calculation of buildng structure , sun winds aso. Maybe a very very cheap material protected in the core of the structure ?
What other or better "platform" could there be, than these pointers ; must work in a digital manufactoring process , things like callibration means build in to the sheets pieces, before they are fed into the mill, ecaping as either aeroplanes in one end, and high rise houses from the other end al by your choice within what the particular material offer.
But this would be too bad, right Romans. |
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: The Need For An Open Mind |
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It is true, one need not "re-invent the wheel" in terms of how a building is erected, but we can suggest alternate systems, technologies and methods to putting together the buildings of the future. There are many materials, structural designs and forms that can hold great future for architecture and construction and we only need an open mind to explore and apply them in the built environment
Since this discussion involves the "understanding of thought", it involves also the understanding of LANGUAGE. Those who have not been a part of this discussion from the start are obviously missing important points made and issues brought up.
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P.C. millennium club
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Exactly , when I say toilet an intire row of application as by magic occour, ecery bit and piece ,but first, I must rely that when I say Box, this ling and this wide, then measures will hold othervise, it's tweing gum and that is not what shuld replace paper.
Allright all that work, but is that going to say, our rooms and cosy bedrooms, are to become just as stríct projected, -- shuld that be a ponish of some kind ? When what realy count, is the gurantie, the logics to dictate, that the floors and walls, will be there, right where they was, when the toilets was installed ,why, why is it you think things can't be combined --- that the new can co exist with the old, Why do you expect the new to be in conflict ,it must be able to make the exact same rooms the volumes, it has to make it easyer to put in a window --- it does, it melt the framework around the window, now if a language is what you want, and words assisting it, then why be shy, it's there it co work with whatever restricted architect application, in fact it support the old lattrice work aswell as a brick wall, while it is wanting, to shape under your command , it will not fight but assist you, by one with reliable measures. |
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