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archytorture32
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Boston, Massachuseets
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:22 pm Post subject: Models |
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| ok i looked at the portfolio and have ANY of you tkane the time to build a basswood framing model of a house?! I have That is HARD I stayed up for about 100 hours straight building one of those things! How long did it take you build yours? do you ahve an pictures of the completed basswood model? |
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Alvafamila
Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 45 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:52 pm Post subject: Oh I get it |
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| So we need to stop criticizing the criticizer? I get it now...Thanks…. ? ? ? ? ? |
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nipesh
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 94 Location: India
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:41 am Post subject: is this an Architecture forum |
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Sorry to say, but why you people are twisting things for nothing.....
Please do remember that this is an Architecture Forum and is not a place to fight over, just review what rubbish things you have been posting........(now plz don't misunderstand me)
| Quote: | | Whynot go for Architecture only. |
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archspace
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 11 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Rizz,
" I looked at your webpage and those images (of random work you just happen to use) have somehow also found their way into your logo and are the only viewable pics on the site "
Yes those images also appear in my logo. SO WHAT! I happened to make the logo while I was creating the flash template. What skills do you have? I'm a second year arch student, also learning flash and have graphic skills as you can see in my logo. You should also take the time to read what the site is about. It's NOT a place to browse for pictures. It's designed for arch studens to upload files or create webpages free without banner ads etc. Again you've proved to all of us that you so easily jump to conclusions and most of the time your wrong!
" I also dont think showing copied work is acceptable in a portfolio, especially when you dont give credit to the original architect. Does Robert Venturi know your trying to pass his work off as your own??????? Watch out for that copyright infringement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
How many time do I have to say this Rizz. That is not my finished portfolio, but a draft of the program coded in FLASH!
Furthermore that model is a class assignment. My professor happened to work for him here in Philadelphia and was able to get the plans. You really are digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole.
keep it up..........
" This is not because i find joy in bringing people down "
Seems that way to me.
archytorture32,
Yeah that model took me about 100 hours too. VERY time consuming.
I attached a key-ring of small photos 1/2" x 1" that I punch holes in the upper left corner. Showing each stage during the building. Was featured in the architecture show at school and was the first thing you saw when you entered the show
Anthony |
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archytorture32
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Boston, Massachuseets
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject: model |
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Yea mine took for EVER but the finished product is awesome and i know a lot of people in my class didn't even know how to frame a house so it was fun to do staying up for about 130 hours straight really starts to mess wiht you though. i lost my voice about 10 days  _________________ Form Follows Function |
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archspace
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 11 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Not only time but $$$
Dam that bass-wood is expensive. Our teacher hadn't assigned this project before and he didn't realize the material is over $70.
Anthony |
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tanzybabe
Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:31 pm Post subject: For Archspace |
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| well it sucks to see that other schools require arch students to do a Venturi Houses but I think what you might want to reconsider is where you got your template. The guy put his logo all over the entire template. (observation by my boyfriend!!!).Good luck. |
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archspace
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 11 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Tanzybabe,
why does it "suck" to do a Venturi House? The entire projected consisted of creating the model, then adding an addition on to it. Within certain guidelines etc etc. Please explain why you think it sucks.
Also to follow up on your comment about the template/logo. The Flash Template is provided free to use at no charge. A small link in the corner is ok IMO.
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rizzdizzle
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 36
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Waste of time...and a waste of money...i know it wasnt your fault, but doing a structural analysis of such a bland house is quite ridiculous. You or your teacher could have easily found a more inventive, or unique structural system to investigate. If you really want to see how a "normal" (standard construction) house is built than join a construction crew for a summer. Or just find a house being built, hop a fence (hard hat in hand) take some pictures and examine the structure firsthand. OOOOOr better yet join a habitat for humanity project. Then you could actually build a house and rather than having a flashy (yet ugly) model to show, you could feel good about yourself........There is no reason you need to spend all of that money, time, tution money, and time (replying to my posts) to copy something you can look up in construction illustrated. The houses that go beyond the venturi house (postmodernism trite) and have their own uniqe structural system/framing method are the ones that need to be examined. Furthermore making such a large scale model isnt going to teach you much about architecture. Maybe if you want to build a shitty house for yourself one day, but you might as well help people and do a habitat for humanity project. Oh by the way 70$ isnt much at all for a project. I know people this year who had to do a stained glass project that ran them over 300$+plus multiple cuts on their hand. Also you bastards are depleting the world of our PRECIOUS TREES...jk (im not a tree hugger)
Yeah.....you asked for criticism and since you put a rushed incomplete web page up...the feedback i gave you was fitting. Its funny during crits when people say "yeah i was going to do that, but i didnt have time", "well im not finished", "im not done but...."
----------no son, dont even try to qoute this--------i would expect more out of a 30 year old. |
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archspace
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 11 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Rizz, I think it's time to put this thread to rest. At least our part of it. You sound like one of those - forum abuse --retentive jerks! who's always got to get the last word in. Notice my last few posts we're NOT directed at you.
Shut up already with my commenting on my projects. They were assigned to me and I had no choice but you build them or get an F. Furthermore, I don't know why you think my webpage is rushed and half finished. The FLASH template is completely finished and always has been!
(You wish you could program something like that... don't you!!)
The template is basically a free service I'm offering to everyone in the design field free of charge. I created the flash template and wanted feedback before I released it. So I'm sorry to have mislead you in thinking I wanted a crit on those sample images, but really I just wanted feedback on the flash template.
Thank you
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grimstuff
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 20 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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archspace, I thought it was a good presentation of your material. The portfolio was very straight forward and easy to use. The design of the webpage also focused the eye on the images well.
Since your material has already been talked about enough I will not offer my opinion concerning it. |
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archytorture32
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Boston, Massachuseets
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:43 am Post subject: Basswood |
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Arcspace-
Ya my professors knew how expensive it was but let me tell you i had no idea i was going to spend 200 on wood alone for making a model of a house.... _________________ Form Follows Function |
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archytorture32
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Boston, Massachuseets
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:02 am Post subject: .. |
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Rizzel-
Sometimes professors just need to get a a point across. like i had mentioned in my previous posts some kids don't know the difference between a rafter and a floor joist. Some times students need something simple. and actually the Venturi house is an AMAZING piece of post modern arhcitecture. I don't understand how you can say that making a basswood model of the venturi house is easy. Have you ever BENT basswood into an arch? I have you need to find a way to steam it and if you are wokring in a stanard dorm room where are you going to find a steam? In a bathroom i suppose but you make it sound like it is SOOOOOOOO easy building something like that. I hate to say it but it isn't. You learn more from buidling then jumping a fence and looking at it. Also i worked construction for a summer and it is WAY different then building a model. construction companies do WHATEVER they want in most cases. By building the model and have to stick to a stanadard code for your loads i feel you learn more. I noticed that i framed a door way differnt from one on the job i worked on and the GC told me that my frame in my model was more accurate but the way they framed it will work too. I am not sure if you are professor at RISD or jus attended RISD but everyschool does things a little differnt but each follows NAAB. My rant is starting to get a little of course so i am done now
"The architect stresses that 'The house is big as well as little, by which I mean that it this a little house with big scale. ...Outside, the manifestations of big scale are the main elements, which are big and few in number and central or symmetrical in position, as well as the simplicity and consistency of the form and silhouette of the whole....The main reason for the large scale is to counterbalance the complexity. Complexity in combination with scale in small buildings means busyness. Like the other organized complexities here, the big scale in the small building achieves tension rather than nervousness....' " Venturi
Samantha _________________ Form Follows Function |
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LKJR
Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 6 Location: Lubbock, Tx
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:09 am Post subject: |
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| don't know if the portfolio is up but I looked throught the gallery, if that was it then I would include some more information on the side bar as to the scope of the project and what not, then some more formal photos. |
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Sonic Sky
Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 17 Location: Weston (fort lauderdale), Florida
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Archspace:
I can't say a whole lot for the individual photographs as I do not know what was going on in your head when you chose what you were going to present, nor do I know what trouble it cost you to do it, but I have to say that your presentation was good. One thing, however, is that I think you should be more detailed in your comentary. Let people know about the blood, sweat, and tears that went into your work.
Rizzel...Constructive criticism goes a long way. If you like it, say you do. If you don't, say you don't and leave it at that or explain what it was that turned you off to the project and/or give some advise on what you think would improve it. Insults only criticise who you are as a person in an all to negative way and say nothing really for who or what you think you're critiquing. Just some food for thought. Thanks for listening.
--Sky _________________ Namaste  |
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