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Donald
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 493
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:35 am Post subject: Darn that Global Warming |
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Moscow just delivered it's biggest snowfall in 70 years. Moscow gets a lot of snow. I know. Now it's the biggest snow dump in 70 years. At the same time California gets snow in the desert. This global warming stuff is starting to frighten me. If things get any warmer we're all either going to be buried in an avalanche or frozen to death.  |
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Architorture millennium club
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 1376
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:48 am Post subject: |
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global warming doesn't necessarily mean everywhere is going to get warmer... the equatorial regions stand to realize the greatest gain in temperature, which would mess up various ocean currents...
europe probably stands to lose the most, since the gulf stream would shut down and they would be sent into an ice age |
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Donald
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thats right, they're not really calling it "global warming" any more are they. Now the magic buzz words are "climate change."
Why the change? Because more and more people are coming to understand that there is not one single piece of empirical evidence out there that anything that mankind is doing on the face of this globe is leading to any warming of the Earth's atmosphere.
We may well be going through a period where the Earth is warming up a degree or two; but we're going through this period at the very same time that the Sun has shown increased activity. To put it into simpler terms one could understand ... Sun gets hotter, Earth gets hotter.
It's been happening since the dinosaurs and the previous ice ages.  |
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Richard Haut millennium club
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 1155 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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"Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us":
http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0%2C12374%2C1153530%2C00.html
The only advantage that the world has is that the NWO is made up of people like you Donald.
Climatic change - or piss and wind. _________________ Richard Haut has worked with the architectural profession for over 25 years and produces the weekly Richard Haut's Competitions, which has given architects details of many thousands of projects for which they can apply across Britain and Europe. |
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Architorture millennium club
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 1376
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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if i'm not mistaken that report was taken largely out of context and was actually written years ago...
the main aim of it was talking about future catastrophic events that may create security issues for the united states... a sudden rise in the level of the ocean would cause much of the world's fresh water supplies to be overtaken by rising seas... which would create a freshwater scarcity...
the united states and canada currently hold a pretty large portion of the world's fresh water resources, that are also high enough above sea level to protect them from predicted rising waters... so you might assume there would be some interest in the rest of the world to capture those resources... |
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Donald
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 493
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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And new British research has it that a study conducted in the Amazon Basin has shown that the earth puts a natural brake on global warming. The growth rate of trees in the Basin has almost doubled in recent decades. Nifty the way things work, isn't it?
For evey one you post RH there always seems to be another that has bad news for the eco-radicals:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_864774.html?menu=news.latestheadlines" |
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Richard Haut millennium club
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 1155 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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"the eco-radicals" - like the Pentagon ?
anyway, how can you accept a change in the rate of something that you insist does not even exist ?
you must be ecstatic about the damage that Bush intends to do to America's national parks and in Alaska.
that is all that you represent: negativity and destruction. _________________ Richard Haut has worked with the architectural profession for over 25 years and produces the weekly Richard Haut's Competitions, which has given architects details of many thousands of projects for which they can apply across Britain and Europe. |
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Donald
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 493
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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"I like Dreams of the Future better than history of the past" Thomas Jefferson
RH, I'm happy to say I'm considered to be an eternal optimist, who enjoys delivering the sermon at the church of the painful truth.
Listen to this: One of the most sacred places considered to the "left" is the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska. They make it sound like it is a place filled with flowing green meadows, burgeoning with endangered wildlife. What they always fail to mention is that the oil-rich part is a frozen, barren wasteland. Bet you didn't know that, did you?
So now that the Republicans have increased their majorities in the United States Senate, it looks like President Bush has the votes to send the oil rigs north and start tapping oil-rich Alaska. Couldn't have come at a better time. Expect the bedwetting environmentalists and the media to go absolutely ballistic over this. Too bad. The facts are the facts.
heres a better one:
"We should all be concerned about the Future because we will spend the rest of our lives there" C.F. Kettering |
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Richard Haut millennium club
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 1155 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I knew about it, Donald - and that its likely oil yield is so small that the oil companies were not too interested.
Bush just likes crapping on things - otherwise who would notice that he was there ?
The drilling would be wanton destruction - damage for the sake of it.
Like a spoilt brat damaging something out of spite - but then that just about sums up Bush, doesn't it. _________________ Richard Haut has worked with the architectural profession for over 25 years and produces the weekly Richard Haut's Competitions, which has given architects details of many thousands of projects for which they can apply across Britain and Europe. |
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Donald
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 493
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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With oil heading towards $50 a barrel and gas at around two bucks a gallon, the United States relies too heavily on foreign sources of oil. It is estimated that 11 billion (that's right...billion) barrels of oil lie underneath the frozen tundra of Alaska and it could be tapped without any environmental damage. Drilling for that oil is a no-brainer, yet for some reason, the left opposes it. Their reason?
Hypocrisy. They want to deny Americans the ability to become less reliant on foreign oil and to pay lower prices at the pump. Somebody might make a profit, you know. We can't have that! In their socialist utopia, everyone rides their bicycle to work and heats their home with solar power. Everyone, that is, except them.
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phansford
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 565 Location: SW Ohio
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Donald wrote: |
So now that the Republicans have increased their majorities in the United States Senate, it looks like President Bush has the votes to send the oil rigs north and start tapping oil-rich Alaska. Couldn't have come at a better time. Expect the bedwetting environmentalists and the media to go absolutely ballistic over this. Too bad. The facts are the facts. |
I prefer to quote Teddy Roosevelt, 26th President and a Republican - who the Republican Party would prefer to ignore or better yet forget. Strong on Defense, Strong on the environment, Strong on Small Business and Strong on Anti-trust and willing to battle corrupt Big Business.
"To waste. to destroy, our natural resources, to skin and exhaust the land instead of using it so as to increase its usefulness, will result in undermining in the days of our children the very prosperity which we ought to hand down to them..."
or how about
" I believe in a graduated income tax on big fortunes, and .... a graduated inheritance tax on big fortunes, properly safegaurded against evasion and increasing rapidly in amount with the size of the estate." - from The New Nationalism 1910.
or how about
"A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democacy." |
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Richard Haut millennium club
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 1155 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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and the reserves are spread over 9,000,000 acres. (The area produced the most expensive dry-hole in oil-prospecting history).
Let's not forget that besides his almost unique military career, Dubya is also a failed oil-man.
What the hell will he bring in next ? Strip-mining of the National Parks (when his buddies have finished logging) ? _________________ Richard Haut has worked with the architectural profession for over 25 years and produces the weekly Richard Haut's Competitions, which has given architects details of many thousands of projects for which they can apply across Britain and Europe. |
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Architorture millennium club
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 1376
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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the search for oil will keep getting more expensive... but as resources become more scarce the price of prospecting won't be as important in comparison to the price of the tapped reserves...
i think that the ANWAR could be tapped without causing too many environmental problems since the proposed drilling sites are in the middle of frozen tundra...
the question is whether or not it is necessary yet... or if it ever will be... they should throw more money and research into extracting the oil that can be found trapped in sedimentary rock in the middle of the country and tar fields throughout canada...that is if they plan to stick to the oil standard...
concurrently there should be a bigger bush to develop bio diesel... i've more or less decided the next vehicle i'm getting is a diesel of some kind. a friend of mine has started making his own fuel from fryer grease and such... seems like its working out pretty nice for him at this point |
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Donald
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 493
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Lets look at $50 a barrel as being the low price...as I said yesterday, blame demand. Demand is at a 24-year high. American, Chinese and Indian users are taking baths in it. Supply must be increased ... and just what does ANWR stand for? There is very little "wild life" let alone life in the tundra where the oil reserves exist...go see for yourself.
Also ... let's try going back to building some nuclear power plants....like in the days of the 70's. By the way, $50 a barrell is NOT a record. Remember, you must adjust these records for inflation. The record was in the early 1980's when the price was up to $80 a barrel. So stop your bellyaching and combine your trips...and get a bicycle for you and your kids pansyford.  |
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Richard Haut millennium club
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 1155 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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If American foreign policy wasn't in the hands of half-educated thieves, America could buy oil.
Instead it has messed up its markets and made itself so despised that the dollar is being dumped - meaning that the "rich" Americans can't afford to buy the oil that their violence and dishonesty has forced to high prices.
Drilling in the Arctic won't help. Too little, too late (assuming that - this time- the US oil companies don't come up dry). _________________ Richard Haut has worked with the architectural profession for over 25 years and produces the weekly Richard Haut's Competitions, which has given architects details of many thousands of projects for which they can apply across Britain and Europe. |
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