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JohnMorse
Joined: 14 Apr 2004
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Location: Birmingham, AL
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 Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:03 am Post subject: Rounded Rectange has arrowheads when rotated. |
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Try this:
1. Open a new drawing. (File -> Opt+Open)
2. Draw a rounded rectangle.
3. Rotate it using any of the rotate commands.
4. Now it has arrowheads. (or is it just me?)
PCadd 6.0.9 (Build DC09) ! -- (I've installed 6.1.. just noticed I wasn't using it for some reason.)
Mac OSX 10.2.8
etc. etc. etc. |
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huc
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
Posts: 661
Location: ::caddpower.com:: (Aurora, CO)
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| Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Rounded Rectange has arrowheads when rotated. |
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| JohnMorse wrote: |
2. Draw a rounded rectangle.
3. Rotate it using any of the rotate commands.
4. Now it has arrowheads. (or is it just me?)
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John
The reason for the arrows is the object has arrows assigned as an attribute. It's likely the Round Rectangle tool itself has the attribute assigned as you won't see the condition unless it's rotated.
Simply change the object attribute to no arrows and double check the attribute settings for the Rounded Rectangle Tool to make sure it has no arrow styles applied.
The condition also exists for the Rotated Rectangle tool.
Typically the problem is either an accidental attribute change in the drawing, or to the tools themselves (e.g. pressing shift to assign an arrow attribute to a dimension tool would assign that arrow attribute to every tool in the palette)
Hope that helps
Brian
p.s.
For what it's worth, this is something that used to appear all the time when we used pen and pencil plotters over a decade ago. Objects didn't appear to have arrow styles applied on screen and did not print them to a QuickDraw device. However, when output to a pen plotter via HPGL, even circles which had an arrow style applied would plot with the arrow heads. This made sense since the HPGL file contained a Pen Up and Pen Down for each stroke and the arrow attribute was part of the stroke count when the HPGL file was created.The drawings looked rather comical but we found the problem was user error. |
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huc
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
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Location: ::caddpower.com:: (Aurora, CO)
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| Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:46 am Post subject: |
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oops... forgot to add
The Round Rectangle becomes a polygon when rotated - the polygon has distinct start/end points which is where the arrows are being applied. If you reshape the polygon you'll see the arrow ends can be pulled apart, which is the common end/start point for the new polygon.
End and Start points can have arrows - and in the case of a polygon they are visible. |
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JohnMorse
Joined: 14 Apr 2004
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Location: Birmingham, AL
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| Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:42 am Post subject: |
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The explanation makes sense. Thanks.
Ultimately, is it desirable for objects to change type when rotated? Here's my rounded-rectangle wish list:
1. the center and midpoint of the corner arcs should be snappable.
2. they should remain the same type of object when rotated
3. they should be able to become polygons with "convert to polygons"
4. (maybe) they should be combinable (using the combine tool) without losing the arc-snaps at the rounded corners. |
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Steve Woolf
Joined: 14 Apr 2004
Posts: 43
Location: Amherst, MA
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:19 am Post subject: |
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[quote="JohnMorse"]
Ultimately, is it desirable for objects to change type when rotated?
Good question!
One reason I use PowerCadd is because it's on a Mac, and it is aligned with the Mac philosophy that the user's productivity is the top priority, and that productivity depends as much on "intuitive" behavior of software as it does on sheer computing power and a robust feature set. What does this anti-intuitive behavior (objects changing type when rotated) contribute to our productivity?
Steve |
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