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Arne
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:13 am Post subject: |
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What will a graphic designer do? Other graphic design project, I guess. And the problem of fee and schedule can't be difficult to solve. There are many multidisciplinary companies... aren't there?
Anyway, this problem does not apply to my plans. I'm looking for architects to join a international creative network; not a commercial company. It's more a free thinking, experimental environment. |
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lekizz millennium club
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 1210 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:04 am Post subject: |
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What is the purpose of your network? Does it have a common goal? It sounds to me like you are trying to recreate the Bauhaus
Many architects have to be proficient at graphic design too. And many are (and have been) painters and sculptors, or furniture designers. One of my student colleagues went on to be a photograher and another worked in car design. We are multi-talented, you see  |
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Arne
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Many it's time for a new Bauhaus
And its exactly the multitasking or open minded creativity my network is interested in!! |
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Arne
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Talking about multidisciplinary companies. This is a nice example:
http://www.pentagram.com
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mx2 millennium club
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1977 Location: Miami, Florida
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I'm looking for architects to join a international creative network; not a commercial company. It's more a free thinking, experimental environment. |
All multi-disciplinary firms have the same problem...and no, it's not easy. It's quite simply done the hard way....each department has a "Director" and they essentially run their department almost as a separate company.
It's not the most effecient manner of doing business, not nearly as effective as consulting or sub-contracting with truly separate firms. But in that scenario, one firm must have a good working relationship with several same-type consultants, ie, several graphic art firms.
As for "joining" an international creative network, this is an international creative network. But as for my fee...where do I send the bill?
mx2 _________________ *Art of Architecture: The conscious use of skill and creative imagination in the production of an aesthetic building.
*Science of Architecture: The calculated use of technical skill and knowledge in the construction of a functional building. |
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Arne
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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It is not our primary goal to create more business for the individual members. Our goal is to do exiting experiments, collaborate with professionals from other fields of expertise. Central to our network is our love for our creative work.
The members use the network as a source of inspiration, knowledge and creative partners to tackle a big multi-disciplinary project.
It will be a small network of professionals with a strong creative heart and soul. Members are graphic, 3D en interactive designers, architects (still looking), artists, illustrators etc. In total the network will consist of no more than 30 members from various countries. Members can be freelancers and agencies. |
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lekizz millennium club
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 1210 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Have you looked at the FAT website. FAT is (or was) an experimental, post-modern collective of architects and artists who produce thought-provoking exhibitions and actual built works too.
http://fashionarchitecturetaste.com/ |
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mx2 millennium club
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1977 Location: Miami, Florida
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: |
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ah...no money? Then for the love of design?...sounds promising.
mx2 _________________ *Art of Architecture: The conscious use of skill and creative imagination in the production of an aesthetic building.
*Science of Architecture: The calculated use of technical skill and knowledge in the construction of a functional building. |
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Arne
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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lekizz: Thanks, FAT is very interesting and seems to be alive and kicking.
mx2: We all have our own clients and businesses... The network is mainly an nocturnal affair But we are a 24 our network anyway, since we have members in Europe, Australia and New Zealand. But most of the work takes place in our head and I get most of my ideas when I'm in the shower or driving my car. Most of these ideas will never see the daylight and it seems like a waist not to use this creative energy in some way. |
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mx2 millennium club
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1977 Location: Miami, Florida
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds awefully familiar...what's wrong with this forum (DC)? What's the difference? Just out of curiosity can you share an example of one of these epiphanies?
mx2 _________________ *Art of Architecture: The conscious use of skill and creative imagination in the production of an aesthetic building.
*Science of Architecture: The calculated use of technical skill and knowledge in the construction of a functional building. |
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Arne
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:18 am Post subject: |
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There's nothing wrong with this forum But we are working together on actual projects. You want an example of one of these sudden spiritual manifestations, but doing it properly will take to long. What I can tell you is that we are working on a film using only our - piece of junk -, we are helping a small (meaning poor) organization with an international marketing and design concept and we are working on a photo/art project. |
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lekizz millennium club
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 1210 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Arne, do you have contact details, for example a web address?
I described FAT as an 'ex' multidiscipline co-op because they used to be a variety of members, including a Fine Artist. Nowadays, they seem to be only 3 architects. They used to make bus shelters into sculptures and make models of buildings out of cakes. Now they make actual buildings, interesting and provocative of course  |
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mx2 millennium club
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1977 Location: Miami, Florida
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I must say, Arne, I am impressed and extremely curious, to say the least. I'm not sure I subscribe to the principal of it all but that's irrelevant. I would love to see/hear/read more as well...no matter what, best of luck to you all.
mx2 _________________ *Art of Architecture: The conscious use of skill and creative imagination in the production of an aesthetic building.
*Science of Architecture: The calculated use of technical skill and knowledge in the construction of a functional building. |
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Arne
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:17 am Post subject: |
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The network is called WENOVSKI. Although we are active already, officially the network will start it's existence beginning 2007. That's why the website will be online somewhere december. (take a look at www.wenovski.com) In the meantime I'm looking for more members and If you want to know more, or if you just want me to keep you informed, I can be reached at arne@wenovski.com. Who knows it, might just work  |
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studio

Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 39
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:11 am Post subject: |
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the job for graphic designer is just to impress one to stay, this work for competition... it is good if architect good in graphic... otherwise architect is just the project manager... _________________ studio
architect's words www.architect-studio.blogspot.com |
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