Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: The Need for a Fluid Liquid Linguistics
Yes, the form and substance of our current architectural elements must be embodied in the new LINGUISTICS of architecture, in such a way that the new technology will not dissolve the old window, but re-define it's parameters and means of use and application. The rooms no longer need to be the square boxes we predictably produce to fit our latrines of imagination. We could so to speak, absorb the old lattice work, frame and brick wall and mold a new form that is shaped directly by our command by the new LINGUISTICS of architectural thought.
In essence, the LANGUAGE of architecture and construction guide in the formation of a concept and create a world before our eyes. LANGUAGE is the source behind concept, behind design, behind creative thought, behind a world of possibilities!
Now, LANGUAGE can be interpreted in various forms, from spoken speech, to actual computer codes. Thus we can have a LANGUAGE of architecture, similar to a menu in a platform, and allow the language to design for us in 3D. This is the ultimate design tool that we are developing here and now. We have devised it and are in the process of perfecting such a system but do not wish to share all the ideas on these forums until we see greater technical participation of members here. This is the ultimate architectural artificial intelligence, one that is guided by human thought every step along the way. The software we see today attempts in a gross manner to do this, but with much inefficiency, and based on the old methods of construction and thinking. Those who have knowledge in developing this type of software, if they are not helping and participating in this, are simply wasting time by not getting involved in developing this platform in a free open participative manner, as we are doing.
About 3DH matrix calculations, these make sense if one considers the structural efficiency. Such a program of matrix calculations can be applied also to similar technologies, where we allow the software to design the structure concurrently as we design the building. It can also calculate the load distributions in statically indeterminate structures, as well as the distributed loads in "plastic systems" .
If we are to apply "new clothing to architecture", we cannot simply re-apply the same fake old skins over and over and re-arrange them". We need new skins that will allow for any structural solution, any shape, any form and that it be light-weight, cheap, mass-produced, allow for plastic forms and be structurally sound. We are looking into polymers and synthetic materials, as these can function both as structural as well as architectural elements, are strong, resistant, can be fire-retardant, and allow for a plastic type manipulation. I believe these materials can carry the future of construction.
has developed a polymer that maintains a high heat-deflection with a 10 minute gel-time. TP-4007 exhibits and HDT of over 170°C/340°F with a 264psi load. They develop polymers to specifications.
Polymers such as these maintain excellent on site plastic molding capabilities, good hardness, tensile strength, and other properties. For example -->>
It is a medium speed material that has great physicals, is high-impact, with a gel-time that allows easy vacuum or hand casting.
Wood-thermoplastic composites or WPCs are another product that has been around for some time, but not fully explored in architecture.
Sheet metal, bricks, stones, concrete all have their place, but these materials require heavy machines in cutting, much labor and skill in assembling. "Plastic" materials, on the other hand, can be easily crafted on site by skilled artists who do not necessarily need to employ heavy equipment.
So, the idea, is how we bring new life to our architecture and world without promoting archaic monopolized systems, materials and programs. Together, we have just devised a new Liquid Architecture, one that is malleable, plastic in thinking, form and technical application.
Mr. Nelson
Project Liquid Universe Coordinator
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please correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't you using (overwhelming) this forum, simply to promote your company and your commercial venture, Liquid Universe........??????
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: A Need For More Participation
Hello Birco,
I understand there are those doing this and has become a common practice to discuss their own structures, designs, causes, views, ways of thinking, etc. etc. There are even some who hoard space in dedicated areas, to promote their own design ideas. This is not the case here.
It seems these forums are often lacking in content and not the same number of members are posting as in the past. Particularly, posts of technical content. Many are simplified reductionist statements that lack a desire to really explore the universe of possibilities. So there is a need for more technical issues to be posted and discussed, as some have attempted to do. There are even those who have been for five or six years promoting one single system, so this is common around here.
We request participation in a community driven effort, and just as these forums, one would expect community participation, not censorship of free ideas, technical posts and systems intended to help the global architectural community.
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: A Need to Understand Thought
What we are proposing is that the linguistics of Architectural thought is what helps us "understand thought" and, so to speak, " Deconstruct" our past world of pre-conceived ideas and re-construct, under a new language of design, a new vision that is free, open and community driven.
My one thread is actually related to design and it's purpose is educational and also I don't try to sell or offer my products. You on the other hand continually advertise your rendering service outside of the forum intended for advertising products and your project is about creating a "global free internet community" and not specifically about design -This subject matter would be more appropriate in a talk forum dedicated to the internet and not architecture. _________________ -Chris Stewart
http://bcshdb.blogspot.com >
The B/CS Home Design Blog
I know about outlets, switches that today is wired to the web , turn the light on with the remote and do statistics on one particular outlet ; these things make me almost dizzie , very interesting aspects when energy efficiency become programable and all pover supply units are collected and controlled by easy to use menu makers and remote control.
---- these are issues you must know that's true, some of us do, others are even able to exterpolate..
At one point, you modestly made reference to Einstein and if he had presented his revolutionary ideas on this forum, that they too would have been met with ridicule and skepticism.
The difference is clear ............. he would not have been asking people to "invest" in Einstein Enterprises.
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: Exactly P.C.
Exactly, P.C. So it is best not to read those posts, as there intention to deviate the subject can be seen. Better to stick with your agenda, and don't give up your dream also. These types of issues that you post are the most relevant and applicable to the technical issues we wish to explore.
These people make false claims, simplify the issues, call other people's vision as sci-fi games, computer games and grossly mis-state the issues.
As stated on our participative site -->>
"No need to invest one penny here on this site. We will invest and work with your company and together we will develop the technologies of the future. Be listed among the top players of the century forever."
They would rather cut down the vision of others, call it nonsense, sci-fi, and ridicule it to the extreme, to prove they are the only ones posting relevant topics. Their absurd, grotesque remarks are everywhere, and continue even in this posting ! These are individuals who claim to seek a participative community, when in reality they are only promoting their own communities and design ideas and despise other free communities and visions, as these challenge their desire to maintain exclusive dominance on every topic. They believe they have the final word and would rather diminish the cause of others then help to support causes that can benefit humanity.
Therefore, these people simply do not understand the vision and would rather seek to undermine anyone who comes along with something that challenges the dominance of their desire to promote their own causes, designs and ways of thinking in a dis-respectful, unrefined and shameful manner. They go on to glory in their desire to cooperate, when in reality their agenda is not cooperation, but to destroy the work of others to promote their own. So it is completely understandable, if at times, pc, you wish to give up on your dreams, and believe they are not correct. Stick to what you believe, keep your head high, and proceed, as you will succeed at whatever you aspire. You deserve it. Your thinking will bring you the means, the way, the vision and the people to realize the ideas of the future. People like p.c. have adopted a very good approach. What some want is argument, to try to ridicule those who fall into their type of thinking.
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Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: The Power of Global Connectivity
P.C. wrote:
I know about outlets, switches that today is wired to the web , turn the light on with the remote and do statistics on one particular outlet ; these things make me almost dizzie , very interesting aspects when energy efficiency become programmable and all power supply units are collected and controlled by easy to use menu makers and remote control.
---- these are issues you must know that's true, some of us do, others are even able to exterpolate..
This topic on the web and outlets being interconnected is a most interesting one. It surely provides a structure for more "intelligent buildings". Now, the most interesting will be to see, once we have this new internet working the power of such connectivity ! These will be the means we will be wired to the universe in a way never before possible !
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Please don't play the victim. Stop promoting your commercial venture on this forum in the guise of an "intellectual discussion".
It's insulting and disingenuous at best.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..............
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: The Power of Universal Language
This is just the beginning of a very fantastic journey of cooperation, and I am very excited to be a part of this. To contribute towards the development of architecture, of technology, of mankind, to the unity of ideas, to a system of global participation and effort ! It is an extraordinary opportunity. Those who look with envy and pride will resist. But the power of the global force of our ideas is so strong that it will prevail and will not be detained by ill intended individuals. They may wish to squash a dream, defeat a cause, undermine an effort, but they will not succeed, as this effort is global, it is connected, it is intelligent, it is being developed by some of the greatest minds, it is not controlled by one company, it is multi-disciplinary, it is community driven, it is collaborative, it is open, it is free, it is inspiring, it is visionary, it is the immortal force of global cooperation, with a free liberal open mind and spirit. It wields the power to transform the reality as we currently know it, and project us into a future of unlimited possibilities, potential, growth and achievement!
Welcome to the journey!
This is just the beginning !
"The Linguistics of Architecture, the Beauty of Language".
"The Inner Beauty of the Soul, the Believer in Dreams".
"To Reach for the Unlimited, the Eternal, the Immortal Substance our our Wildest Dreams".
"Language. It carries the power of our thoughts, conveys the immortality of our soul, transmits the worlds we create, inspires the generations to come, conveys the code of our thought, expresses the intent of our idea, creates the energy that transforms, brings a world of creations, is the structure to convey our wildest imagination, can be tangibly connected to the world around us, or can be a metaphor of thoughts and ideas to come, it can hold the shape of our imagination, it can guide in the creation and in the form of our ideas. It can be expressed in a gesture, a work of art, a statement, an idea, a vision, an architectural masterpiece or in a code of organization. In it's multiple faceted form, it is universal when it speaks in unison, when it dreams the same dreams, when it carries the force of our imagination to it's ultimate fulfillment.
The Power of Universal Thought.
===============================================
The birds may quack away, or so one may say,
quack and chirp they go, but they must surely know,
That as they jabber and plunge,
as they drift and re-group,
they will continue to display
the same predictable way,
Amusing it is, that so by this, they do so to speak what not that be weak, or a fable of the soul, but this to know,
that their regrouping of flight, in the night,
is but a tempest of feathers that shake their wings as they weather,
and go on, to play the same song,
a song of darkest distraught, were that it not, that their tempest of
thought were not such a shame of a game.
==============================================
We inspire and aspire to join in a chorus of song,
one that not be long,
one that not be short,
but one of a sort,
a unison of thought,
that is not distraught,
One that is free,
or can it really be?
One that can dream,
to some, it may seem,
that we cannot so to speak,
but be it not for the weak,
Be it for the strong!
Come, sing along!
Join this joyous throng,
and find your way,
be it is so to say,
that there be a way,
A way to join this flight,
and not that by night,
but by day,
a day just a day away,
the day we dream,
and together bring,
A song for all to sing.
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: The Core of Linguistics
"When Innovation is a must Efficiency will come as a side effect.
In the continuous process of refining the building process, design is today only partially profiting. We must add the element efficiency, or soon face serious barriers. It is not so easy to transcribe the methods from before the time of the computer into a fast code, without at some point realizing that to do that “seven mile jump”, it really matters that one know the crafts, and one knows that the progressive new methods are the only right answer to the call for new efficient design. You’ll know what I mean, when you see it; this is new, different, and unique. These qualities make it a vision, more than just refining the old methods.
There will be no greater answer to efficiency, than when a new, unique method questions the old methods, pointing to the fact that too often, software is just the old methods rewritten into fast computer code.
The new technology is made to support old techniques, instead of the obvious innovation that must go into it to make the real change, the new architecture, the new techniques. The real progress starts in the details, it must be carried by a true feel and true innovation, because today’s production must be more efficient. There’s a need for true new visions, something really different, something that will build the house at a third the cost and four times as strong.
Furthermore, it should bring forth a new technology and develop new techniques, thus opening the world of opportunities in a completely new way. The same old methods can be further refined into a whole new direction. The best measures for this in architecture are beauty and innovation. The vision is the proof."
By P.C.
Innovation
Efficiency
To refine the building proces
A new unique method to question the old methods
A need for new visions
New technology
New techniques
Open a world of opportunities in a completely new way
" The best measures for this in architecture are beauty and innovation.
The vision is the proof." ----->>>>
The core of unique innovation
The vision of the new
To open up a world of possibilities
To inspire
To aspire,
To dream
to seek new technologies, new techniques
The vision of ideas as carried by the power of our LANGUAGE.
The web is something difficult to learn, the best definations of it I recall deal with sharing of information of idears . Often in discussions I wanted to use this argument, -- when someone demanded a fysical model I would have stated that this is not what the web is about and you shuldn't expect fysical things as such before what's more important , the sharing in a community of what the web is about communication and idears, But ----
Without humor it is difficult , maybe even impossible.
Yes I agree, a big part of the function of forums like this (DC) is social. Although this is a specifically a technical forum related to architecture and design.
There are sub-forums here that are appropriate for selling products and services and for chatting about computers and science fiction and that type of thing. _________________ -Chris Stewart
http://bcshdb.blogspot.com >
The B/CS Home Design Blog
Exactly, -- but it is also important to measure the efford of promotion, it's caurse and reson, there a focused fora ofcaurse will attract more qualified audience -- but what if, the efford are spread by choice, if the messeage have more than one audience, case the concept are greater than just that, true I judge the statistics myself for my own promotion to, but I rather be out there, where it is possible to genuine inspire , be able to do with your arts what's presant, pleasant and relevant, there new cheap houses alway's will be a issue, an issue I as promoting madman have had to admit to even myself , not me, not my invention, but the impac a new tool develobed as a serious contribution and talk, well when powdered, the talks about 3dh seen in that perspective, are interesting in social sense to, but realy, was that my issue or your's.
As you know I am thankfull, I even progress to next number, start doing lighe shows and extract increadible analog knowleage and skills , these things are just great, but wasn't it about cheap new houses or what ?
Has architecture lost it's way, Realy ;;;;; Architecture are about flying saursers right.
Sorry this is just how it Is ; when things happen, it don't happen as you expect, we havn't even broken out of the digital stone age. Building houses will become a mental issue , don't hessitate --- sure it will, and thought will concour the build forms , but not gentlemen, not before sokendid new design tallents spit you it, into your eyes sorry ; this is what you expect and what will happen, then honest guy's as I, can only contribuate, but I havn't seen a penny yet !
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