Deconstructionism "Understanding Thought"

[P.C.]

This is just how it is, sorry, --- but I have something to offer, not atleast but by core revolusionary and damned simple, beside the tests of it, shuld be in peoples mind, performing the CAD programs and money mills, making shit into gold requier , what promises other technikes offered as you know , is already a challance not a fight, I try compare surface focused solutions up against my structural one, and fing everything quite accurate, therefore buildable, but further, the education of these choices, the wonders it will create, are quite natural, Provided with 3dh, are the new cheap houses as well as the rugid structure for a bomber fighter 3dh Will provide, but 3dh are just one out of many, many possible new way's to put things together, from the manufactored or natural materials.

There I notisfy my likeness with other promoting concepts, yet -- I don't know what to answer what 3dh are, it's so many things beside a mountain of money, just wanted you to know, snf no ; profesional advise will not cure my obsession, I tried it don't help ; thoug humor alway's saved me. It can be very bad but it also can be very good.

[usarender]

What have we done pc to deserve so much ingratitude ? We have furthered the cause of others like yourself, have shown we an not interested in promoting a single vision, and are participating in a global, community driven project that is requesting a free, open mind!

This demonstrates the extreme of ingratitude.

Then, the community goes on to credit those who have been seen to be reductionist, irrational, irresponsible and abusive. They do not even know how to compose posts that are related to complex topics. Their replies demonstrate extreme naiveness, lack of understanding of the issues, gross mis-statements, undermining of causes and ideas, and reductionist postings and reactions. This only demonstrates further their ill intent. One need not to have to look very far, in other postings in these communities, to see their lack of understanding of the issues.

They mis-state, undermine and grossly represent the cause of others. They make claims that are unfounded, have no basis in reality due to their lack of understanding of many issues and for a failure to understand the cause and ideas of others, and inability to engage in intelligent architectural, technological and scientific discussion, as it relates to issues so important to design, thinking, architecture and the linguistics of architectural thought.

They believe that discussions like these on the linguistics of architecture, on architectural theory are not relevant? [/u]

It is high time more serious issues and postings began to engage real technical discussions on the true future of architecture.

[P.C.]

Oh Yes !

[csintexas]

We are not criticizing relevant discussion and exchange of ideas on architectural related topics.

We are criticizing selling your product and services outside of the forum intended for that purpose and creating long rambling and often duplicate posts promoting your "liquid universe" which is about creating a community in general and not architecture.

As far as who is pretending to be an architect or home designer goes. I actually prove that every day where as I have never seen any evidence that you have ever designed anything.

[usarender]

If these people so disbelieved in our project, why did they request to transfer their website to our server, when we readily agreed? It is obvious they had no intend to support a community driven initiative. Their accusations are false, ill-conceived, have no foundation, do not understand the issues at hand and are gross mis-representations of reality. We are promoting a participative effort, not promoting a company, as some argue. It has nothing to do with a product or service, it is a system, that calls for global cooperation.

These people don't belong in these forums if they are here just to criticize the cause or ideas of others, rather then to participate in the discussions in an intellectual way. This cause if for Nobody the betterment of humanity, of this community, and of the world in general. These people seem to not understand this. They would rather promote their own designs and post irrational statements that do not understand any of the issues at hand. Then, they turn around and try to cut down projects like these. These people are not seeking to create an open free environment for the exchange of ideas, but rather using their postings as a pretext to hide their true intent. So they have no right to accuse architects of not knowing how to design, when they themselves have shown to not understand design issues.

These people have no idea what our projects are about.

The projects and ideas we propose have nothing to do with selling product or service. We are proposing IDEAS, visions, methodologies and systems, in the same sense that P.C. promotes the idea of the 3DH. These are community driven projects, and just like any community, including this one, there is always someone wishing to place an add for some product or service, idea or way of thinking on every page of online communities such as this one. It is a natural extension of the way the companies who promote free online communities are able to survive. Nobody is attempting to sell any product or service. This is a free community, and the projects are community driven and oriented towards the betterment of mankind, not the promotion of a company.

It seems no matter how clear we are, they do not seem to understand. They continue to harass those who propose unique ideas that are for the advancement of architectural theory.

[P.C.]

I reached the point where I challanced oppoments to Deliver themself ; do something better, more innovative , same cost ok. but with the progressing of digital construction aids --- no one challanced, but that's when I realised it, all complains about 3dh was not acturly technic ones as I would naively expect no, they was personal and that, that make me second. As if progress in architecture shal be decided by personal attacks , then realy it is not architecture but what could happen in any brance, simple bullying , bulling by complete engineering wise idiots not knowing a paint program from a cad program. True Im'e a bit tired of it to, but I learned to pray on it.

[usarender]

Ok, sorry to bother - how do the 3DH systems protect themselves from fire ?

Can sheet metal really carry the weight of World Trade Center buildings ?

Just a few questions I had.

I don't mean to diminish your cause or despise in any way. I only had these technical questions I wanted to address.

Thanks for understanding.

[csintexas]

A lack of gratitude for what?

Are you still mad about the website hosting thing? Gezz, I was just kidding. Listen, you don't even own a server, your website is hosted by a 5 buck a month hosting service just like mine so you don't even have the ability to host my website.

You are right, you don't need to prove anything but by not doing so you lose credibility.

I'm the one pretending?

I think what we are trying to say is that your behavior here at DC.com is often inappropriate.

We would just like you to use this forum to sell your rendering service:
http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=11

And stop spamming your ideas. You don't see me spamming my project all over the place. I made a thread for my project and everything specific to that project stays there.

How would you like it if I spamed the Modern Texas Home Project at random in all threads?

Just make a simple link to your site and attach it to your signature. Then anyone who is interested in your project can just click on the link. There is no need to be a pain in everyones side.

Even better why don't you create your own forum like I did. Then you could promote your ideas all you want. There is no need to hijack Design Community.

[usarender]

As can be seen, these people continue in their ungrateful behavior.

Rather then participate and cooperate in these forums in a constructive way, they would rather harass and spam member postings with objections.

These people speak out of gross assumptions they make that have not basis on reality. Our servers certainly cost twenty times more then what they assume.

These people post their illogical comments all over these forums and practically none of them make any sense.

These people seem to forget that everyone in these forums has the right to an opinion, an architectural vision, and freedom to express these visions in the framework and structure that they feel will best convey their ideas.

[birgco]

usarender,

Your behavior is quite predictable. You get called on your misuse of this forum for the promotion of your commercial project and company(?)....... and you start calling people names............???

[usarender]

I responded with cordiality, not seeing at the start their cunning intent -->>

" Hello B,

I understand there are those doing this and has become a common practice to discuss their own structures, designs, causes, views, ways of thinking, etc. etc. There are even some who hoard space in dedicated areas, to promote their own design ideas. This is not the case here.

It seems these forums are often lacking in content and not the same number of members are posting as in the past. Particularly, posts of technical content. Many are simplified reductionist statements that lack a desire to really explore the universe of possibilities. So there is a need for more technical issues to be posted and discussed, as some have attempted to do. There are even those who have been for five or six years promoting one single system, so this is common around here.

We request participation in a community driven effort, and just as these forums, one would expect community participation, not censorship of free ideas, technical posts and systems intended to help the global architectural community."

Their ill intent was clear in their meek "correct me if I am wrong" post, when they posted a double identical post on the different topics, intended to undermine the discussion and discredit our work. They continue in this behavior, even until now, in an attempt to dis-credit our work and undermine the open posts and the flow of thought.

As I stated clearly above -->>

"The projects and ideas we propose have nothing to do with selling product or service. We are proposing IDEAS, visions, methodologies and systems, just as P.C. promotes the idea of the 3DH. These are community driven projects, and just like any community, including this one, there is always someone wishing to place an add for some product or service, idea or way of thinking on every page of online communities such as this one. It is a natural extension of the way the companies who promote free online communities are able to survive. Nobody is attempting to sell any product or service. This is a free community, and the projects are community driven and oriented towards the betterment of mankind, not the promotion of a company."

[P.C.]

" Ok, sorry to bother - how do the 3DH systems protect themselves from fire ?"

That is up to you what you build from it, build what is already and you get that, put a bit more innovative thinking into it, you already are aided just by not needing to invent something new it's there with 3dh, but your questions surprises me ---- It is not I who shal develob or answer these things,


"Can sheet metal really carry the weight of World Trade Center buildings ?"

An "H" beam consist of tree pieces of sheet put together to form that profile, 3dh can build any profile as such but the cube is already known to add optimal strength in so many structures, that you will find it difficult to point to one, that is not a cube structure, any engineer know that, anyone with a bit engineering knowleage can count uo countless of strong structures, that gain their strength from it's cube structure.

[usarender]

You are right PC. Perhaps fire-proofing it is up to us Architects to decide how to do it.

About the structural integrity, maybe I still need to understand better your system. In my mind, it was a series of tubes made out of sheet metal, which, in my mind is not as thick sturdy as extruded steel beams in terms of plate thickness. So if it is, then these systems would have the same thickness of steel or would they be more light in weight ? Would they not consume then more steel then traditional systems, if the plates are the same thickness ?

Sorry for asking, it is just questions I have. Or are these questions out of place also ? In any event, this topic has lost completely the direction, so why not make use of it now to discuss these issues.

Others are using it to diminish or try to diminish our cause anyways. There will always be people in these forums who do not truly understand a vision, as they obviously have no vision.

[birgco]

usarender,

I am pleased to see that you have realized the error of your ways and dropped the link to your commercial project(s). Also, in the future, try to limit your postings to no more than 50 a day..............
it's overexposure.

[usarender]

These people pretend to be more sensible now. They refer to links and items which they do not understand. They meekly post a reply of gratitude, then go on to try to sabotage all community efforts. One need not look very far to see their persistent harassment in recent posts.

Now, a topic of concern to all -->>

Uncle sam and private enterprise is spying on you.

Soon all you do will be under their control -->>
(Posted on the news approximately ONE MONTH before we posted our main thread on this site design community -->>

http://www.theregister.com/2007/06/23/sentient_worlds/

"The DOD is developing a parallel to Planet Earth, with billions of individual "nodes" to reflect every man, woman, and child this side of the dividing line between reality and AR."

"Called the Sentient World Simulation (SWS), it will be a "synthetic mirror of the real world with automated continuous calibration with respect to current real-world information", according to a concept paper for the project."

http://www.simulexinc.com/products/case_studies/

"SWS also replicates financial institutions, utilities, media outlets, and street corner shops. By applying theories of economics and human psychology, its developers believe they can predict how individuals and mobs will respond to various stressors.

Uncle sam claims they are doing tests on statistical analysis, for strategic planning, for scenarios of the future, geographic analysis and the like, but the true goal is ultimate global integration and control under a government controlled system. They will know everything about who you are, where you are and what you do. If we do not make this effort to bring this into the public domain and universal quickly, the result will be dire for all.

The answer, Project Liquid Universe.

Why allow the uncle sam, the DOD, private interest groups, and private companies spy on everything you do, from your personal, to your business, to your corporate life ? If is high time we globally unite in this project, and remove this data from private or government interest groups and keep it where it belongs - in the free public domain !

BORN, PROJECT LIQUID UNIVERSE. The power of global connectivity.

Now there are those who think this does not concern us as architects and designers ? It is high time we join forces and create the future together, including the architecture of the future.

This is all what project Liquid Universe is about and has been about since the beginning. We seek to create this exact same type DOD SWS system and the various Simulex Case study types projects within the PUBLIC DOMAIN, where they should be. Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, unite with us! Why allow one government and one company to set the stage for the future? It is high time we bring this into the public domain, where it belongs.

Together, as one voice, we need to request our politicians and leaders to open this information and these projects to public access! Why hand these projects over to one single company, to monopolize, control this information and thus monopolize the future of humanity? Whether you agree or not, either we do this together, or government and single companies will do it, and it will be too late for us to join efforts!

The government is already doing this, and some on this forum call us all sci fy fantasy, illusions, commercial junk? It is high time we as architects and designers WAKE UP, and realize urgently what is going on around us! Either we design our own alternate reality and re-shape the future together, or the government will do it for us, and it will be too late to go back!

If this does not concern us as leading architects, as environmental designers, as those who lead and shape the reality around us, then who does it concern? If we do not act and do something about this, who will?

This is a new government project and there is still time for us to unite and bring this into the public realm, before it is too late!

The time is here and now.