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Interesting the contribution about authentic and fake consume products. I worked in firms like Louis Vuitton, Loewe, Cartier and others, but was the experience of Afinsa, an immense fraud company dealing with stamps, that than made me reflect about the value of things, I mean current objects than became limited, and then the value burst. I wrote something dealing with authentic and false Chinese products exploring from a dynamic perspective, see the attached file.

But I´d like now finish my comments about static an dynamic economy and their implications in standardised economy, yin and yang relationships using traditional Chinese concepts if you want.

If you arrive at the entrance of a car factory you will find two just in time costs. The first is about 10% of final market value, I mean once paying workers and supplier workers, building, machinery, energy and materials, if you get your pocket and pay the car is your at 10% of market value. The other just in time cost are taxes, so the final price arise from 11%? to 50% talking in general terms.

This fact shows the transition from mainly industrial economies to mainly services economy, and who is paying the bill. Without industry services is practically nothing (remember computer and this cable called internet are machines). So the knowledge consists in call with a different name an old thing, I mean deal with objects and persons at work. But the difference respect architecture is than still the first is more automated and second is highly handcraft, hand made.

If in the entrance of the car they want give you a model and you ask for another they will answer you than maybe in other life, the rigidity of machinery save costs but do not make miracles. Maybe there are 299 hundreds model cars in the world, and factories produces i.e. 3000 units per day.

Then if you answer than bus bodyworkers produces with flexible and saving cost machinery (half handcraft) more models they will answer you it is possible find many thousands of models of little ships. So tunning sure is a just I time cost, and of course is more expensive and it is not a just in time cost.

In architecture it is possible get intelligent bricks and moving cities just in time but you can not personalize them, dealing with persons is always more expensive but you get richest perspectives of future. I mean the present industrial and urban model is suicide. So, which are your preferences in investments and why people insists we are in crisis?

Do it flexible. In the figure 49 of Llley Project all the countryside is producing more while moving in periods of 10 – 40 years with the exception of villages, cities and suburbia, and protected natural places. Infrastructures are moving too. Of course it is not necessary going from one extreme to another…if we manage nature ok.

Australia can be a good example of management. First inhabitants fired a big part of their future and the seconds began with a confussion (“I thought it was a dog but he went jumping” said captain James Cook the first time he saw a kangaroo). A la tercera va la vencida, all you take your time now, let nature work. Choose some ingredients http://www.soitu.es/soitu/2008/01/30/medioambiente/1201694159_265857.html , move it (there is an Italian than combines biological elements with liquids expelling both from an aircraft for restore quickest the Amazonia) and with the help of all the ecosurfers announced here and new ones i.e. from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfers_Paradise,_Queensland locating correct places install together with scientifics the ignition system. I mean don´t build in a new El Dorado but let than nature get higher scales of water activity, learning how waves of life are forming till tsunami scale, checking it with planners (when I learnt fly I saw a video of an old couple flying 1000 km/day without pollute), and dealing with coal sector for transference of workers to a more healthy, qualified and amazing place. And let animals flow. And then is possible build with sustainability. This is economy.

With decreasing natural resources and pollution air industry and architecture are going directly to collapse. Working with nature is a fortune, it is exactly opposite. Adding ingredients to the cocktail the flavour will not be more free or democratic, but all us will have more time for decide about other investment, to live or to survive, that is the question.

Djswan, next mail is about Venice, discovers or conquerors?.

Countdown: 2

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[erjavi]

Discover: Mission abort, mission annyort!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhzxQtj8HTU Something happens, something happens!

Houston: Yes, we have a massive bag gas uncontrolled, but…how did you knew it?

D: I…I don´t see many advertisements of houses in Northern lands in the web!

H: Are you crazy? Of course not, a galciation can arrive more soon than you expect! Go! Go! You are on time!

D: What are you talking about, Houston?

H: We have received strange signals, our experts are still analyzing, but first impresssions are awful, people is leaving the headquarter… The annoying thing is bigger than you expect, Discover. In this precise moments tons and tons og sorry of metan are flowing to the atmosphere from Northern lands, the artic lighter can burst in any moment.

D: But, it´s empty there!

H: Hey you, in which world do you lives, see the maps, http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/11/1109_041109_polar_ice.html http://press.nationalgeographic.com/pressroom/pressReleaseFiles/1239801200270/1239801200272/ngm_may_highlights.pdf it was full of oil and gas station, a spontaneous fire is devastating the area, impossible of control, the ice sheets is accelerating her fussion and…we are on may! Aaaaaarrghhh, run, run now than you can! If some cities don’t´fall under new sea level others can be under the ice….aaarrg! I just bought the plans of a house there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Last_glacial_vegetation_map.png

D: And what says politics about that?

H: The panic began when we saw the signals…There was some politics of Northern countries talking with one flag in one hand and in the other a stick or agenda, and suddenly sound something like VVVVVVVVVVVRRRRRRRROOOOOUUUUUMMMMM…the image blurred, and the next signal showed the politics with the two hands in the trousers and running to the South!

D: Houston?

H: What?

D: Did you forgot than TODAY was the pretense? Houston, you have a problem.

H: Eeeehh, sorry, continue the Countdown, I do not know why some people at office want to do everything at same time.

D: We are two. Oh! I understand, the duration of the route map was not complet, let me see, ahá, ahá, ahá, yes!, I ´m going to introduce it in the computer http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089050/ what say here? “See instructions. Keycode: Barbarian”. Ok. Here we go! Houston, ccntinue Countdown 2.

H: Hi man, no more surprises, isn´t it?

D: What can I do, sorry Houston, it was a last minute!

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(Barbarian, barbarian, what is that of barbarian?. Let´s go see, I have a little of time yet. What say here? “Norms in architecture: “2nd part”. Ahá ahá ahá, curious, here says than Northern countries can reaction to dryer urban model before of the rest, so the Artic can stand stable and even refreeze meanwhile Souther countries can ignore the challenge, i.e. Spain. Ahá ahá ahá… so the European mediterranean countries can massively emigrate to the north for learn there how to manage nature. Ahá ahá ahá…but they will not suggest nothing to them about they behaviour during Northern holidays because they know they have a lot with themselves, they will have to grow alone. Ahá ahá ahá even they will not say nothing to a Spaniard called er…I don´t understand very well what say here. Ahá ahá ahá…Note 1: Norther countries we are not barbarians, Germania still exists but Roman Empire not, then, who are the Barbarians here? and don not forget than now people live better today in Germania and Italia than many centuries ago. Note 2: Southern European countries become civilized thanks to the contribution of Barbarians some milleniums ago, not more recently only http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones'_Barbarians )

D: HEY HOUSTON! I was right then! I didn´t saw many advertisements of houses in Northern lands in the web! …. Houston? HOUSTON?.

Ayayayaya (I´m not singing flamenco) Nobody says nothing!, always the same history!. Ah, no!, I read Barbarian document.

[djswan]

Conquer or discover? I'll take both... and why not Venice? I'm guessing we're all in agreement the world is going to hell, although I think global warming is going to be the fun part. The reaction after it's warm could be a bit nerve wrecking. So...what do you want to do about it?

[erjavi]

Wakan tanka, Djswan? this is not Little Big Horn, everybody wants enjoy http://indiannations.visitmt.com/ . Did you knew USAers already got 1 point like discovers, they are the first. You know, there is an Oregonian web than accepts develop proposals to the limit, you are reading now on their home, and like you can imagine unlimited solutions are being developing for many people for limited problems, but you are the only courageous than talks clearly so you got 0.9 points till now.

Now I´m going to see some data more, and then proposals to Venetians and other parts. Till then if you want wait and see while I see and wait. Please tell to others too.

Did you not understand what is happening? It´s time to enjoy, yiiiiiihhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! (vertical landscaping)

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[djswan]

Brilliant. It's a great mystery and that is why I pride myself in skepticism. We should have a good sweat sometime. I can smell the sweetgrass.

[erjavi]

“Have the bemoles like tie”, it is a happy popular Spanish expression used in construction too, it means somebody than has terror to live but it means too when you have the choice of do a difficult building work and you accept the challenge. Only for accept the challenge “you are guay!”, this other popular Spanish expression means you are great. Somebody told me once than the nobility/magnamity of somebody was not measured by the number of times this person got right, but by the capacity of recognise own errors. Now it is time for big challenges, for us and for descendents, and may be is better help fabricate snowshoes for Venetians than for own family, without forget than Northen countries can do their work well and Southern do not, and then Venetians and others must fabricate canoes for live in the North.

Djswan, let me show you the following history together with that of two USAers friends, they go on party to Egypt for celebrate the origin of beer maybe with USA women there, you know what I mean.

I´m continuing collecting data for the next mail about Venice, it is a long mail, I´ll write again next week.

[erjavi]

“Have the bemoles like tie”, it is a happy popular Spanish expression used in construction too, it means somebody than has terror to live but it means too when you have the choice of do a difficult building work and you accept the challenge. Only for accept the challenge “you are guay!”, this other popular Spanish expression means you are great. Somebody told me once than the nobility/magnamity of somebody was not measured by the number of times this person got right, but by the capacity of recognise own errors. Now it is time for big challenges, for us and for descendents, and may be is better help fabricate snowshoes for Venetians than for own family, without forget than Northen countries can do their work well and Southern do not, and then Venetians and others must fabricate canoes for live in the North.

Djswan, let me show you the following history together with that of two USAers friends.

I´m continuing collecting data for the next mail about Venice, it is a long mail, I´ll write again next week.

[erjavi]

Djswan, let me show you the following history together with that of two USAers friends.

I´m continuing collecting data for the next mail about Venice, it is a long mail, I´ll write again next week.

[erjavi]

Hey Djswan, I tried to attach the novel "Mil faraones" but there are some problem with this.

[erjavi]

Hi!, for avoid send very long mails I´m going prepare the terrain for the next. I forgot see an appendix of the Barbarian document. Barbarian means literally “foreign”.

Then I do not need license for come back to Germany, I am not foreign. My first surname, Domínguez, is full cañí. The second, de Angulo, is Normand since 700 years ago ( old Spanish form is Angul, Angoulême etc), and it looks is related with Ludovica Angus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus ), Scottish, and how knows, with India too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angul , all an Indoeuropean surname, the rooth is ang-. My following surname is García de Paredes, is Visigothic and written registers are dated from 1.000- 1.100 years ago (Asturias) , so I can claim my blood rights, me and 800 millions Germans descendants worldwide (practically the biggest part of America, West Europe, Australia, etc, Germans has melted many trough the history, so in case of severe climate change they have many family homes for stay before recover frozen areas.

This is way in other part of Llley Project I expose than in case of a galciation coming in three days, Spain, with present technologies, could receive together with Portugal if Portuguese agree, Greenlanders, Icelanders, Irish, British, 30 million French, Beneluxians, Danish, Norwegians, Swedens, and 60 millions of Germans, thinking in avoid mountains and get the fastest way to Italy via Donau, together with Austrians. It is very hard suggest it because the recent division of Germany is fresh, but I think than big natural changes can make see our identity without fears, like for some Spaniards do not understand what represent receive people before be conquerors, or if we manage bad nature, leave our land after conquest it but without discover it after more than 5 centuries.

I write this hard suggestions just for opening a dialog, I do not represent nobody and I am not interested in politics, many people do not understand politics without the guarantee of violence if necessary.

But the deep reason for my insistence is the earthquake of L´ Aquila and the relationship between methane and oil and gas stations in the Artic. When I wrote in the Llley Project about the artic lighter I was thinking in the explosive bursting of life of the soil micro organisms there, but not in inflammable consequences and the risk of people working or living there, and the effects on ice, and eventually on glaciations.

When I tried to see the difference of biodiversity respect micro organisms in relation with latitudes (nobody knows in you can find the same micro organisms in all places in different proportions or there are different species, the biodiversity of Ronda invited me think about the first possibility), then I saw the asymmetry of Antarctica, separated from land respect Artic, a fact than promote a micro climate with the Circumpolar ocean current. Greenland is similar respect micro climate, is autonomous respect Artic but there is not an ocean current maintaining isolation. Then some possibilities could accelerate.

In Iceland people is living near thermal sources than could represent volcanos in a frozen atmosphere. But redirect lava flows could be the solution for urgent houses, http://www.toelke-feuerfest.at/en/the_company/index.php?gclid=CPzoo7qL-ZkCFUEt3godzy9UGA , building hot walls than could introduce heat inside domes. Domes protected against bombing heavy volcano rocks. Some years ago a Mig Soviet pilot fall over the Urals I think, and parachute did not worked, so he crash against the mountainside snowed after 6000 meters falling with an lucky angle, so he only injured in a leg. Then designing a dome and using additional snow covering it vertical impacts over refuge could be minimal, http://www.domehome.com/ . I thought some months ago in an umbrella of textile architecture for avoid more rain over the Parauta recycling building work center, while people clean the interior, it could help with harmful gases too, like filter.

Ice extraflats hovercrafts described in previous replies could help evacuate people, or big sail sleighs.

Maybe some tunnels are not prepared for heavy earthquakes, like the Eurotunnel or that linking Catalonia with France via A-7.
http://www.alertaterremotos.com/riesgo_terremoto.html Then could be nice think in some possibilities about adapting them doing a new tunnel inside the present tunnel, more resistant, although more narrow.

But could be possible evacuate massively people from Eire and UK through flexible bridges, I mean, just opposite to Talgo train system, http://www.talgo.es/eng.html , I mean thanks to flexible linked wagons never derail, so if you turn, reverse the concept you get a fix road over a interlink and flexible base. This base could be inflatable http://www.promobile.nl/?gclid=CPzkoeH4wZoCFRISzAodEwICwA and constantly moved by the waves, even heavy, and if necessary the road could change the extension for get stronger like the Talgo changing wheel distances, and even if the sea is strong the floating road could navigate, and with emergency sail, leave the bad areas soon.

In addition you can design the commented igloos covering urban areas, there was an Austrian ice rinks manufacturer announced here but I lost the reference too.

These measures could be launched soon in case of immediate big fires in Artic or better in case of unexpected consequences related with them, specially in Greenland. Due the global commerce crisis, there are near 1.000 container ships in the ports now. There are bombs than destroy oxygen for stop these fires too.

So in the case of emergency, there are solutions for Irish and British and this why I proposed temporally divide Germans, like Scandinavians too, for evacuate people immediately, and regroup after.

In this case Venice and many coastal cities would obtain more land from the sea, i.e. Valencia city would obtain 150 meters more.

A big fire in Artic could originate toxic areas anyway, so evacuation could suppose an emergency too till winter perhaps.

In earthquakes appears together with ice and dams fall if additional tunning has been not made for deflect lateral tensions, this bridge could be managed for cross big rivers. Remember nobody built bridges between Roman times and XIX century over Rhein; and note than a plague of rats crossed rivers expanding illness in the past http://books.google.es/books?id=-qG2FQCfd0UC&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=rata+volga+peste&source=bl&ots=CDFs4CPdus&sig=TqrOv0urDWjvuDGr6Lza4IgNydc&hl=es&ei=Sn4QSuzXD8ehjAeM1uDCBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1 , so like we are not alone in cities the design of inflatable road bridges must have in account this factor too in continental waters.

For little but immediate increasing level of the sea I suggest floating docks like the commented respect Monaco for avoid sea invasion of cities or the entrance of the sea in Nile delta small river branches. I supposed big rivers like Amazonas will decrease the area of mix waters, but even in this case fish species adapt more or less successfully like happens in Gatún lake in Panamá Channel.

Emergency concrete docks could even be treated in surface for avoid psychological reactions, i.e. http://www.sistrom.com/?pageId=1&lang=2 (I thought this proposal for Venice, but could reinforced MOSE project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSE_project in case of tsunamis caused by maritime earthquakes). Maldives islands and other areas could form a ring forming a dam while locks or floodgates are developed.

Anyway these docks can be flexible, linking extremes of present port infrastructures, and mobile thanks to renewable energies like the 5 aero generators over the self Bilbao dock port, or nearest mechanism http://swellfuel.com/, an Israeli web announced here too (I lost too the reference), http://www.oceanpowertechnologies.com/ , http://www.pelamiswave.com/content.php?id=161 , but always please finding a solution for avoid marine sounds than affects marine life, it is not so difficult encapsulate the origin of noise in origin.

[erjavi]

And finally Venice!

But for arrive Vence it is necessary vinci the fence. His and her rights do not depends of me, or nature, this a personal question. All I can I do is approach, may be Djswan will enter in the city, sometimes some discovers just open routes and others navigate and arrive to new lands.

Oh, I did not saw than in Barbarian document there is other appendix! What it is written here? “Look name, not surname if you do not want be barbarian (foreign, wild) of yourself”. What it means? My name is Javier, it comes from etxe – berri, “new house”, it comes from Nafarroa (Navarra) although the name is Basque. Well, where is located Euskadi? May be by toponymy…no, by toponymy it includes the Andorras and other faster places, including France. May be by language… No, Basque is one of the world five languages not related with any other in the world, the most nearest is Japanese, there are 20 words with the same sound and meaning. May be going to the library and looking history…well, now is closed under Guadalquivir delta, and in the other hand it is curious see how many K and R has the unknown Iberian language, may be the Rosetta stone are located in the library, and then would be possible see the Rose of Winds of the Basque language expansion. But you know, perhaps what? with this matter of the ice the question will be continuing a mystery…

So, may be with my complete name, Francisco Javier Diego Nicolás; you know, this is a Spanish family tradition than want ensure and relation your family descendants with vertical landscaping, although is wrong, this is a personal matter.

We think the Death is following us and our fears introduce ourselves into a prison than always has the door open. So we must not be surprised if the horse do not arrive to Damascus from Persia like in the story, http://www4.loscuentos.net/forum/7/10383/ : Al-massir http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119629/ ) a rider escaped with the freedom of Arab thinking, like an injured horse escaped to Rodén, if Nordic ice turns into water and …but if the sea enter into the Nile delta this time the history is not going to be repeated in Egypt. The hunger happened at the end of Egyptian Ancient Empire finished in cannibalism although nobody remembered there because the witness, Ankhtifi, gone with his testimony to the tomb, http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/humansac.htm. And that is way in medieval time, when this fact come again, the chronicler thought it was the first time http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/egypt.html. But now, and because Egypt is the library of the Arab world, many people will remember it and know than it is necessary avoid it.

Yusuf did not the Bahr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahr_Yussef, but of course if you install marble concrete mobile docks in delta Nile for avoid intrusion of sea water
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you can avoid continental water inundation using Assuan – or better solar – energy for get more underground water using johads, or increase food production in Fayyum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fayyum using solar energy for pumping the not used Nile water through a temporal new channel to Mediterranean for maintain and even restore lost fish banks due the creation of Assuan dam, Egypt sailing in a http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faluca formed by two dams...

But please remember than China is the biggest natural oasis in the world and their traditional answer for keep isolated (Great Wall, Green Wall, etc )do not works with nature, nature formed the Chinese oasis, and sometimes they works like resonance boxes, it is better look for way outs for avoid unexpected pressures working with nature, i.e. ancient Egyptians did not stopped the Nile like routine, what is important is than the cat, black or white, hunt mousse not insects.

Some people thinks than Yusuf did other building works instead the Bahr, but now the Egyptians have a selected Channel, number five, for facilitate oil ships take other routes at better conditions fomentando, not banning, like Panameñ@s, avoiding that coming from Artic, like the gas or other commodities too, and promoting the transport of renewable commodities, and compensating both Channels for eventual loss caused for this sustainable port practices, a practice that could be extended to all Mediterranean ports, and i.e. why not European too. Of course the loss of Artic ice do not means necessarily natural disasters, can be a ordered process, and the Mediterranean will be ok…without Artic ice in summer it is sure than sea level will increase during 6 months, and the other six will be ice again, imagine the transition of water between the standard concept of business or security I am sorry between the artic lighter in both periods, the peakoil will be later http://www.simmonsco-intl.com/research.aspx?Type=msspeeches but the artic lighter will work then, a massive evaporation forming megahurricanes. So maybe you can build there and live during 6 months, you can get commodities for have more time for non eco-designed consume products, but…

A Greek shipowner received during a rebellion a family letter at the Athens jail, together with other things. Now I would like muy afectuosamente send him another looking for his help for try avoid than Mediterranean sea became a jail by their own waters: Onassis said Soviet oil was black not red, other Greek shipowner made fortune transporting oil during first Irak War, but now the business is not in the Artic, probably is dealing with transport commodities related with renewable economy. Greek, Egyptians and many others in the Mediterranean sea can develop their future working with nature and the phrase “The Mediterranean was the sea of the past, the Atlantic is the sea of the present, and the Pacific is the sea of the future” estará pasada por agua because all the seas will be re-launched instead of be in non sustainable future few more than merely connected big swimming pools in a temporal galciation era or something worst.

And who talks of Egypt talks of Indo delta, Ganges delta, etc, and all coast of the world under Greenland ice fusion.

(If galciation arrives for laziness remember we just only need fusion the ice absorbing gases i.e. http://www.greenfuelonline.com/ in spring and summer in the European Gulf Stream, recently researchers said than even during galciations the Artic ice sheet is smaller, and the process of break the ice will receive the feed back energy of the fusion water falling i.e. to the Mediterranean got with mini-hydraulic equipments…and transporting part of this water to South Mediterranean countries for avoid the effects of hyper arid winds, so if galciation arrives we have 6 months for prepare us and break the ice).

May be ice problems will affect all the Rift Valley expelling people far, and this crack will arrive till Turkey, and many buildings will fall. Where is the accent in this history? I would like proposal if Europeans manage nature correctly and North African Mediterranean people do not want, than Spain receive together with Turkish and some Balkans States, and maybe Portugal too, to Egyptians, Libyans, Algerians, Moroccans and Saharians (I do not understand why Arabs from the coast, the mountains and the dessert want share a growing dessert, Spain has something to do in this matter, see a figure of Llley Project), together with los Sefarditas, and together with France respect people from Lebanon and Syria. I will receive at home some roses from the Libyan dessert if submarine potable water channels? or intrusion of new water sea level affects Saharian water libyan reserves...

Are Europeans better or worst than others? It is hard of believe, but in some places of the world there are people than sincerely believes than Welfare State id a WE patent (White European patent), or if you prefer a WAC patent (Whites of All Colours patent). Agriculture is expanded worldwide, industry is expanded worldwide, States are expanded worldwide, good architecture practices always has always been developed worldwide…what is new? From the beginning the British channels received investments, the laissez faire is a theoretical fantasy and, like a Galileo pendulum, economic policy just is moving inside a little movement, left and right, right and left, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, for get the wellness of population, sharing in the way a part of the richness and redistributing it for achieve the goal. SO it is a common objective launched by the last technology wave, but this objective always has been operative through the history, do not overestimate it.

If you imagine a world with a strong welfare state it do not means than people is happy, if you do not believe me see the TV. But it is a good beginning. Bismarck union (see the reply on---) was an initiative for incorporate dignity to industrial times. Afterwards the British developed Welfare State. 20 years ago in Kiruna (Sweden) an insect me picó y me rasqué. At the following day, in Haparanda (Finland), I had the hand like a balloon. Then I went to the hospital (a building mix of Ikea and Toysrus) and after care and receive medicines for reserve I got my pocket for pay, in this time even the passport was needed for enter Scandinavia. The doctor quietly stopped me and said than they paid to much taxes for let than I pay for be helped. She was not telling a political speech, or showing an arrogant appearance, she just said what she believed. Then I knew what was Scandinavian solidarity. And I recognised it is ridiculous when somebody of Southern countries defends their family solidarity or warming approaching to the people, or their spontaneity towards helping others respect industrial developed societies, just see expectancy of life rates, education, job opportunities and others topics. Anyway I think in the fusion of the best of all traditions the richness is locally global. I think promote the liberty of others is the result.

Reading Guinness Book of Records I see than now the last are the first, I mean the capital of UE is located is Belgium territory, the place where the humanity has experienced more battles through history. Do not let than those than escaped from Europe i.e. to some American countries looking for liberty fall in violence with massive use of personal guns in case of severe climate change while the European solidarity talks with facts, I hope your values will be stronger than a simple fire and a simple storm.

In the other hand few years ago I was in Ivory Coast just before 1st anniversary of “white hunting”, the answer of people tired of forced European presence there, but I saw than they did not want the war even if religious, ethnic, ideology, foreign immigration foreign or other press factors are used, I walked alone three days in Abidjan without any problem, the unique white… and I heard a British working in U.N. went at work walking too, the international presence there suppose a stand by, and in many aspects answers to the joke than Soviets made about themselves, “ellos hacen como que nos pagan y nosotros hacemos como que trabajamos”. Walking three days I only I saw a woman, probably French, leaving the cathedral. I saw an elegance respect foreigners than usually is not seen in Europe, even in limits situations.

In the projected cover of Spanish ghost towns book the publisher selected the village of tuna village of Sancti – Petri, but today is occupied by the real state speculation, no initiatives for restore fishes reserves. It is difficult find ghost towns there, I found two only under pantanos, Peñarrubia in Málaga and Castellar de la Frontera en Cádiz, but living in Ronda I heard something about La Sauceda, a refugee for angry people with the official repression, I mean, ex-imperial soldiers, African slaves escaped from Seville - in XVI century was like a chess game following a chronicler- , probably monfíes too, bandits and many more, but they forced people of the villages pay for pass in their territory (cobrando a hondazos el portazgo), till they were expelled in the Civil War a cañonazos. The search of freedom trough violence only is the same dog with different collar, even if is in forum literature, I had not bemoles for introduce the question correctly both to Spaniards and Germans thinking that present real state speculation and history would not let people see the problem with their better attitudes, simply I thought bad. Si los españoles y los alemanes siempre nos hemos llevado bien por algo será. Mis excusas, paisan@s.

I think I was barbarian (foreign) of myself when I introduce the question of ice to Germans in an inappropriate way. Deutchsland, entschuldigen!. I will not invite myself to your country, my “other” genealogy suggest to me it, no more conqueror.

Germans and French Llley Project readers knows I wrote if the 15 million French living in France after galciation (I supposed together with some Swiss) are not ok they are for my part invited arrive to Spain. If they are ok there is place for 15 millions German more. I did not include Spanish Islands…for other 5. And If the rest of Baltic nations talks with Portuguese respect their islands, maybe no one European nation will be temporal separated before the break ice.

Now I came back to first division again.

Djswan, as you see it is difficult play always in first division, the important is the tendency. I am going to celebrate it with a good German wine, still there are good vineyards lands there.

And of course people from other Southern countries can manage nature better than us…

(Definitively I am going to dedicate to landscape, my new second career).

Finally Venice:

Economist Krugman said recently in a Spain TV interview a comment of a satiric USA newspaper some time ago, for leave the real state crisis it is necessary other new burble, but it seems renewable energies are not so big still.

He said one thing correct, the new burble must be sustainable, turning a millenary worldwide dryer tendency, descendants will can say it.

He said something half correct, we need a burble for stop psychologically be in crisis and accept than the magic Adam Smith´s shadow hand give new value to real state present investment, so the fantasy-speculative will be real without take land of reality, because the other option is some years coming back to reality, accompanied by solidarity and prudence for future.

He said something incorrect, the burble of renewable energies is small. Promote changes in local climate is legally correct inside Holocene parameters even if neighbours oppose to it, the real richness can not be stopped by poor economy, opposite, it is an invitation to global well being.

Related with the last comment I prefer wait a little bit more to some companies I visited in Genera----- in order to accompany with photos tendencies applied to dryer parts, i.e. Australia, and translate other to Venice.

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I am sorry, but due continuous problems with computers and pen drive, and because I am tired too, I just share with you all I wrote till now, it is more or less clear in general terms, can be useful for a brain storming. Thank you very much for heard me.

Dominate nature do not means domesticate it! .
Some people is already working in this direction http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSDAH85514520080619 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1027638/Iran-joins-Britain-America-save-Asian-cheetah-extinction.html
Case study: Australia Net study: refreeze Artic, defreeze partially Antarctica
Reconstruct the world, beginning by cities, is the present challenge, http://mydailyclarity.com/2009/05/bam-and-katrina-two-tales-of-reconstruction/ , for continue calling Pacific Ocean, Pacific, for continue calling Great Rift Valley, Valley, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Rift_Valley , etc, forget union between us can be mortal.

And are very very important the efforts for reconstruct buildings if symbols ------architecture world trade centre this week http://www.architectureweek.com/2009/0603/design_1-1.html
And for get it let´s go avoid potential future disasters like Turkish receiving Palestinians in the vast area of Ararat mountains, inside a Pan-European operation – Turquey is too part of the European continent - for rescue nations in danger of disappear and avoid repeat the History - this mountainous area should be Patrimony of Humanity instead of military areas -; let´s go better help nature reconstruct nature, let´s go flow lions from India to Morocco and Mauritania, and Kenya, let´s go flow tiger from South Korea Turkey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Tiger and many more...for those than are too much standardised, do you think am I the ingenuous?
Some years ago a ray fell at three meters of me, I was shocked, years later it happened again at my father home what this time I was relaxed, but it was the first time for him so he was shocked and began walk in the opposite direction with the eyes opened like dishes, and extending his hand trying protect me although he was not able to localize me, years after a young lady I knew opened the mouth for talk to a naughty children while she directed him/her and then a bomb burst inside the wagon on 11 March 2004 terrorist attack, the expansive wave traversed her and she was intact, and the children was ok too because she protected the children with her body, few time ago I saw in TV a old Japanese lady that was cleaning a bank with a companionship when one of the 1945 atomic bombs burst at 150 metres from them and she was ok, and recently died of elderly without troubles, and the building was in part ok too, a pig was intact after the radiation of the Bikini atomic essay, there is some in the skin than stops the chain reaction, a retired Spanish military told me in case of atomic attack the protocol consists in say people keep at home…for retire better the…, so we can make buildings and cities with resistance to atomic bombs, chemical attacks, and tsunami climate changes too, but what I am to propose now is different…although other measures can be better, depends of attitudes respect expand dialog.
Till now I talked of surfing with climate change tsunamis, now I am going to propose you create them. Imagine the scene, in first case you are quietly on your surfboard perceiving how the wave forms, studying the trajectory, the characteristics, and knowing how to manage it without be injured. Now is opposite, the ocean is quiet, and you begin to remove water, waiting to see how the wave is going to get form, following the process, swimming with your arms over the surfboard waiting for the moment of go in front of…
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In the first case nobody desires can help the wave became tsunami, even if you able of surf it; in the second is necessary be a carbon lover for attract nature without control, but, it is necessary? I really do not know how works the nature´s Countdown, but Countdwon is possible.
Are you ready? You can select the level of risk before nature pass into action, and you can stop the process when you want, just apply then the present urban model; but do not forget nature is managing an autonomous Countdown without our permission.
The initiative respect Australia I am going to sketch just like brain storming exercise includes by own nature other next world areas related: now imagine part of the Antarctic surplus ice comes the continent increasing the force and humidity of Tasmanian route or change partially direction in a erratic trip …looking stress tress trees? For re-equilibrate Ford forces employed. Which is the next path? Surf.

www.kuntiqui.com (thanks for announce yourself again) and others New Zealand people with experience in fisheries and snorkling volunteers, can find unknown waves, then would be very very very careful the management; satellite observers, surfer observers and other volunteers are essential for see how the tsunami evolutions, in close contact with South America (is expected a increase of glaciers there, the maritime path of Strait of Magallanes could be epic for traverse) and South Africa (an opportunity for recover hand made lost lines, but in this occasion with movements of wild animals, how is the situation about natural connections between the African National Parks? massive seasonal or definitive animal migrations could appear). The biological activity of Australian beaches will burst but some beaches can be dangerous, record Hawaian waves can be sometimes a children game, over all that of the South, because in North coastal Indonesian jungle and others of SE could mitigate mega hurricanes effects ( a debate, www.futurarc.com can be a good forum for build in), but the northern Australian tropical jungle creates a microclimate than stop these fronts and could be a launching area for expand tropical jungle more to south, till limits of hand made dessert.

Of course new winds but without manage can arrive in annoyingway respect the present world urban model, and insufficient efforts in participation or management can collect the worst results from both, and not only in Australia, could be the worst experiment in Australia history, imagine coming winds destroying habited parts for reconstruct inhabited parts. Acojonanting. That is why I was mistoke in last reply when I told modify climate inside Holocene parameters was legally correct, here it happens like in economy, we do not act alones respect others and nature, so radical freedom – without solidarity – is just slavery, in real freedom you can do what you want but supported by the rest, everybody doing that at same time. Did you experienced some time?

Already in Spain we are looking few tornados in the transition Mediterranean area (Málaga and Cádiz coasts), and if I am not wrong two years ago was registered the first hurricane in North Europe, so we can be already in transition season. Or maybe the weather will be ok alone, do you have some prediction model for share? That is way learn do surf as quickly as possible, projecting with nature like routine, it is not only a necessity but a virtue too, we can expand our skill for enjoy nature.

I recognised more I write more I change some aspects of my exposition here and in Llley Project. Curiously I remember when I was writing it tropical process looked far away from present in Ronda, but finally I wrote something about it for finish well the work, tropical wave would enter via valleys where subtropical vegetation still exists, sometimes almost independently of altitude, and too via proliferation of subtropical species in underwater Malaga coasts, with independence of the arrival of exotic species like toxic yellifish entering via Suez Channel, because Mediterranean warming. Artic without summer ice in theory is near in fact to a seasonal tropical one, changed sharply to standard weather each six months, without arriving tropical permanent season due the present composition of our atmosphere.

Fortunately, because for arrive to this point would be ¿necessary? a warmer Earth less affected by winters via a dense atmosphere, formed maybe after many eruptions of volcano like Krakatoa, a toxic or partially toxic atmosphere---? Fortunately if Artic ice disappear in summer earthquakes would be more and more soft once the Earth crust stabilises, then the problem is less, much less, I hope the proportion of global water movement will not affect to much the Earth crust stability. So in this sense I feel quiet, but I am not a meteorologist, or a physical. Simply I suppose ice can be very disturbing, but manageable, and toxic gases coming from volcanos the first time will be not so much, and even can be partially neutralised sending nuclear guns disarmed and equipped with anti gases, without play chemicals like children in home. Other option is than we will arrive to a neo-tropical season precisely by massive water movements, changing more and more plants, stimulated by animal migrations, maybe with marginal ices in winters, different ocean currents and winds.

I thought climate change was slow, measured in geological times, but now I am not so sure, I think tends to be exponential after think more about renewable energies, so take with caution the following lines. Few years ago a portion of Antarctica funded in few weeks due under ice water channels between others, and then scientists began see Greenland with new arguments about the speed of changes. Now I think each time more climate change works with natural lighters self promoted exponentially, so the surroundings of Greenland maybe are already announcing something, just with the absence of ice, letting gases work.

And this under ice water channels can be more active without an ice security perimeter, so big part of the block ice can go to the sea carrying with this fact itself new highways, no roads, for the following ice part in an exponential process, so standard predictions can be useless. What is worst, maybe only one or two of these blocks can disturb Gulf Stream sufficiently for call a galciation, or a mini galciation, without loose Artic ice. It is useless if West European we crack the ice while absorbing gases if spam industry is not moved first to the South for recover their territory, together with North American people. spam did in worst conditions with Stalin in the 2nd World War, translating factories behind the Urals, so is easier and more efficacy for manage storms do it now with democracy, employing all talents of people working without forced restrictions, in a much bigger and critical operation.

So is important manage our richness like poor situations dealing them with rich perspectives. Try restore immediately a millenary dryer urban model can be even dangerous, work in it in registered pre industrial areas canbe safer, without forget expand humidity in Australia. It is true than with weather we know what we initiate but not what is going to happen, we do not know what is happening, remember chaos theory talking of the flight of a butterfly creating hurricanes.

Anyway aspects like techniques for get food for thousands and thousands of million people do not changes, although are not necessaries. Now I am going to expose about manage ignition of wet tsunamis for open collective brain storming, and a possible paper or renewable energies in economy. Australia –Venice.
How build houses before ignition a tsunami, how do it in Australia with tornados class F-10? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Globdisttornado.jpg (this map is not exact, some decades ago a tornado, “huracán” said people, uprooted a heavy windmill and killed a family in a now ghostown of Valladolid province)
Highway to hell? This must thought vocalist Brian Johnson when he was truck driver, an urban legend says old rockers never dies, sure they die what is true they never retire because their music is star, independently if you or me agree or disagree with the text, Star Wars begins, Star is people, Wars is against dessert. Some people knows how build there, i.e …no, I am not going to continue in this way, I am learning to be discover so I want find solutions for the common house, and like apprentice of landscaper I have four paintbrushes for design panoramas, the Lines Series Collection, adapted to every places:
The world is an archipelago full of good practices in all languages:

¡A la de una!, Norweggian island of Utsira, 200 inhabitants, store energy system from wind-hydrogen working since 5 years ago, -----

¡A la de dos! El Hierro island, 12500------the hydro-wind central described will begin at the end of 2010, www.goronadelviento.es

There are other islands already working for get it too? I do not know
¡A la de tres! Eire, 4000000--------http://www.spiritofireland.org/ with hydro-wind projects too.

¿A la de cuatro, Australia, 22000000-----? Or other?

I.e., and it is only an example, the Lines Series Collection paintbrushes for Australia could be the Wallace Line, the Goyder Line, the Equator Line and the Alçasovas Line, the first is made by nature, the second is hand made, the third is mind mad(e) and the fourth is hand mind, I mean only serves for blur after apply correctly the third, once crossed it (----,------,------,------- this “Treaty” divided the world between the sons of Spain and Portugal like heritage, and that is why Henry VIII claimed see the Adam testament for see his part, and a descendant of him called Monroi reclaimed him too with his famous phrase “America for UKnow what I mean”, now imagine a green Australia of 7.000.000 of square kilometres in climate change weather times and you will understand how important is playing from the beginning in first division if your intentions are really legitimacies, not only in Australia but everywhere, beginning for your own room in the common house, so if in the following lines you are impressed by the scale of the sketches, please note there are many hand made dry areas in the world, and many hand made on line drying areas we are making every day with our consume products philosophy, please let me show you some sketch of a different style, do you remember the 10% just in time cost? I am going to add a 1%, this 11% is the just in time cost of begin to dream for me: the 10% is the cost of the car just leaving the factory and the 1% is the landscaping of the factory from the beginning. If this 1% do not works, I will invite an Irish-descendant to drink a beer in a pub, because the 10% it works).

The painter palette is full of colours, not only black or green, the red of the dessert (landscaping), the grey? (for complexity), the…

But I am going mix them in a different way, other 10% is for transport, I am not decide about taxes, and the rest just I time costs, the % you want dedicate to delicatessen agriculture, standard or crafted architecture, eco-machines and post tunning off site eco-designed crafted consume products, etc. Well, is easier to me give some big draws for show you the sketch.

The first ingredient of cocktail is automated water-energy distribution in dessert, I call it Molotov, can attract tornados F-10 and even mega-hurricanes, but here!!!! Yes, the architects are able to build there. The first photo of www.orangeinge.--- shows a half buried house with interiors design for workers launching the Molotov ingredient, with many details made form from natural local resources (some raw materials of Spanish tiles production comes from Australia) i.e. www.cdstiles.uk, www.institutomarangoni.com/marangoni_summer_courses_2009/index_milan.htm click on interior design, etc, (please I will not mention all the valuable suggestions made via publicity for avoid collapse mail) do not surprise if you find a mix of elegance, comfort and simplicity, maybe you do not know Australia is called worker´s paradise. And now the 10%. For break the ice Terence Riley presided a jury than awarded a house inspired in an ice block funding, which retracts on own interior, made by Enric Ruiz-Geli (Villa Nurbs--- Premios Cerámica de Arquitectura e Interiorismo (ASCER… Estudio de Arquitectura Cloud9 -“Vivienda familiar en Empuria Brava”— “El arquitecto se ha basado en un bloque de hiel que se va derritiendo y ha ideado un edificio que se repliega en su interior”)

The ceramic skin able for project with variable meteorological elements, acts like a vegetal wall, a skin working like a group of ceramic leaves working together, and linked by cables to other parts of the building, like a bamboo scaffolding respect a typhoon in Hong Kong. “El edificio se encuentra recubierto por una piel cerámica que plantea una nueva manera de concebir la fachada en el campo de la arquitectura. Se compone de una serie de unidades de cerámica diseñadas de modo que, consideradas en conjunto, funcionan como si se tratara de un muro vegetal. Según la orientación, esta piel tiene la capacidad de aislar al edificio de una condiciones medioambientales desfavorables y de protegerlo frente a la insolación, la lluvia o los fuertes vientos. Al mismo tiempo, es permeable a la brisa. Un sistema de cables tensados en forma de red que se apoya sobre la estructura metálica de la fachada sirve de soporte a estas piezas cerámicas. Ambos elementos definen la capa exterior de la fachada”. Why ceramic? This country is a supplier of raw materials in this field too, and even intelligent materials, www.talison.com.au

Or are we ready for get materials from micro organisms? i.e. 10% www.egnc-ibm.gov.eg , www.thiemt.com, or using natural ones? www.ikuska.africa--- , http://www.beanproducts.com/c/BeanBagChairs/Bean+Bag+Furniture.html?gclid=COLo76vYzZkCFQUVkgodEEwBvA , http://www.collectionpas.com/?gclid=CJKY8ZHRypkCFRMXkwodeVMtuw#
http://www.metamorphousfurniture.com/who.html , adding the 1% i.e. http://www.saahub.com/?gclid=CN_GoN_r-JkCFYQ-3godRwyCFw
, www.form-magazine.com

And without forget the 1% for the exterior too, painting the ceramic leaves: “El pintor Frederic Amat ha intervenido en cada una de las piezas cerámicas mediante la aplicación de esmaltes. El estudio de la forma de estas piezas se ha desarrollado sobre un modelo virtual tridimensional que posteriormente se ha producido mediante procesos de fabricación digital” Ecoconstrucción, Marzo/Abril 2009, pág. 39.

This last 1% introduces us to a curious debate, it is suggestive suggest forget the sugestion? Which part of the 10% can be designed for be outsourced after factory by suppliers more or less fordian in order to increase variation without be far of 10%. Precisely external paint of the car was the claim of people to Ford, and it is not very difficult employ handle machines for painters employing a correct time, see by instance graffiters in cities, they do not employ many time in their performances.

It is possible say the same for some exterior details, I mean you can fabricate the core machine able to be finished in some points with different forms inside security norms or effects of publicity on roads, producers are more focused in high speed than usually people do not use always than in personalize cars, for a 1% more many people would be disposal for decide about. There is more global job personalizing long term objects than concentrating short term guarantee products, and is more sustainable. Even people in big car factories could have even a more crafted work, giving higher standards of quality and aesthetics without think in other aspects. What I am saying for cars I could say for buildings, infrastructures and cities, reversing the present tendency towards the 10%.

Coming back home e-ceramic houses (the ceramic can be intelligent, http://www.grafixplastics.com/biodegradable_film_g.asp?gclid=CJHy-Yyz0JoCFQMFZgodbgo62Q, www.mig-mbh.de or like in Bam using protected swimming pools for dust sequestration while get fresh air) the production is still partially dirty, but not are appearing hydrogen motors for cogeneration www.guascor.com (HYICE) forming itself part of the machinery of the Molotov ingredient promoting biodiversity, not try minimize impact. Tiles factories located there could develop filet filter ceramic tunnels for clean emissions Bionictile ceracasa , and could be act even like tower controls for tornado alert www.spxclearsky.com

The Castellón glazed tile sector is the most potent in the world, and not only by the fordian scale but because in the last years they have invested hard like electricity suppliers, tourism, real state and agricultural sector in relative dryer hand made areas, so they have a global how know for integrate different activities--------- But the power without control is useless, but if you see TV you can find many nature programs developed by Australians and New Zealand people so if they want could be possible locate optimal places for initial workers emplacements following mobile criteria of the Seven Spirit Wilderness eco-resort (Ecosystems, Landscapes Architects and Enviromental Planners)

Think than dessert is a think tank and never is empty, the location of today can interrupt the wildlife corridor of tomorrow (a researcher suggested the soil micro organism could use vertical highways when it rains, talking about Brazil apparent desserts --------------). Soil is too the dessert lighter, maybe this could explain why desserts flourish so quick and powerful, it looks than chemical lighter initiates with a sudden change of temperature or humidity, so the flame of life burst).

Inside Molotov environment standard prefab houses are sure? Maybe should be nice landscaped them with dessert skyline, and it is possible too link them by underground cables like Torres Kio skyscrapers in Madrid, installing this system too in wind-forest installations, painted or landscaped (1%), so if a tornado arrives they can launch and take land again (windinspire Mariah power— www.verticalwind.se ). What is more, you can even humidity with an appropriate cover like the plastic-recycled palms employed in Libya mentioned in Llley Project (all the ideas and expressions I wrote in this project and this forum are free for everybody if are object of patent, I only reserve the rights of the two novels for negotiate with film industry in order to communicate with illiteracy people). The conventional alternative, fog screens, are better if landscaped (1%) but they should be self-packed quickly in case of strong winds. False wind-forest or fog screens, easy of eco-design, are highly valuable for help birds and others animals to launch wildlife corridors, more if they have shadows. Some baobabs retains I do not know how many thousands of potable water in the dry savannahs, special tiles trees could be eco-designed for absorb humidity during storms, forming shadows too, and together with johads could promote temporal oasis, with a solar system for expand irrigate lands---alberca solar----- (this idea could be useful in Madagascar, like in the baobabs avenue, for enlarge watercourses and forestry?).

--suggested an interesting approach, get oxygen from trees in architecture. Wind-forest near worker´s houses could employ the energy not used and storage in different high levels of reservoirs solar managed inside the oasis for proportion heat or cold air during night, with less consume, and even for get an automated system of pump water from underground johad part with solar energy to upper part for get mini hydro energy everyday, an autonomous system for expand wildlife corridors, develop crops and have a reserve for human use. Anyway solutions for save energy are numerous during the day www.donqi.eu (urban windmills), www.grammer-solar-es (get heat or cold air directly from sun), there is even a system for get energy over 5 Celsius grade directly from air but I did not got the reference Webasto Jose Verano, www.air2air.se (more efficient system of air conditioned, till 70% more), and other ingenious systems http://www.yalianlamp.net/product.asp?class_ID=115 (looking always to the floor for avoid light pollution), www.climatewell.com, www.tenesol.com, http://solaglobal.com/category/being-green/?gclid=CMOAvZzhvpkCFUEt3godLhpQ7A, http://www.communicatingthermostat.com/?gclid=CLrtvMmnz5kCFQrAGgodzHi7vA
, http://www.monodraught.com/contact-us/index.php , http://www.greendalenursery.com.au/ , swimming pools included (biological swimming pools, johad swimming pools, interior swimming pools www.okuonline.de , landscape house construction itself promotes biodiversity, or using photovoltaic installations used in spas www.isofoton.com .

If houses runs the Solar Decathlon, www.sdeurope.org (an USA initiative --------), which athletic test should pass houses in such place? Excess energetically to other houses, option to be linked to other in case of tornados, change positions (boomerang), colours (landscaped), kangaroos (jumping to other technologies additionally), local materials eco-designed, and the other five are… coloured? (1%)

Tiles could be electronic too, I mean transparent e-tiles, or e- glass blocks integrating PHOTOvoltaic structures (here appeared different Australian and non Australians companies dealing with glass in architecture, this material and ceramic requires many energy for transformation but this is not a problem like you are going to see in next lines, problem is make intelligent chimneys for avoid pollution building with local materials like in the past without trees, in a renewed way) you can get colour for dissipate heat with less efficiency (Kubertor, www.energia-termica-avanzada.com), or paint them or design via serigraphy turning messages with the same objectives, or make solar tiles (of brown and red colour, useful too for change the aspect of industrial roofs because the cells comes in flexible carpets adapted to surfaces, Unisolar, www.flexcell.com / www.filmsolar.es, etc), changing the colour or shadows in different parts of the building along the day (town council of Ludesch, www.sunways.de , www.vidursolar.es balcony glasses in hotels), extending this ideas to solar parkings (www.nobel.gr in Bern, this company fabricates too accumulators with red frameworks, perfect for some parts of Australian landscape, and storage batteries - captador - in grey, green and black too), etc.

But before apply any of this or other ideas just a question of previous design, like a COAM representative explained at Genera, first than think in energy saving systems the important is design “wheel” the house, mobile, transportable? (she said design well), because work location can change for stimulate better the tsunami so optimal location, materials and position are fundamental, and after maybe can be necessary modify or incorporate active or passive systems. Apparently tsunami workers houses will be continuously in the front of the storm attracting it, each time more, so is expected humidity will be a factor each time more important. Following chaos theory arrived to an unknown point the butterfly flight can originate the hurricane, or mega hurricanes together with tornados F-10, but because this is a new land for discovery, really nobody knows well Antarctica wind behaviour respect Australia. But it is true in the other hand than the rest of human and natural Countdowns, non eco- designed consume products, recharge of Antarctica battery, ozone hole, global warming, etc, continues working so the effects could be even more strong and quick without a prepared country. For me the best solution is talk, one person one voice, what do you think about?

Before continue giving good practices in worker´s houses dealing with Molotov system I would like talk a little more bit about it. This is other part of the 10%.

The system is easy: create an exponential ball of water thanks mobile automated renewable energies + water attraction systems. Selected coastal wind-hydro dams pumps water and gets energy for distribute it inland till selected thermo-solar stations pump the costal water far away, together with energy.

Why thermo-solar factories? This is a system low of install, more expensive today, but is powerful, needs less soil and is relatively easier of camouflage respect Molotov winds even if are precision installations (optical mirrors concentrated in a point, and following the sun) So photovoltaic installations are for expand the secondary net of water and energy, and are easier to move.

Thermo-solar factories are in big part a Spanish technology (it works commercially only here, and around 12 projects are in construction with a power of 850 MW, Abengoa is going to build in Arizona the biggest central comparable in power to a conventional carbon electrical plant) but no only, and this technology needs be universal as soon as possible, the 10% is not still acquired because the technology is new a little efforts gets bigger advances. Protect mirrors for actively attract storms is easy installing them half buried, incorporating the aspect of astronomical observatories encapsulated if necessary (I am not going against Spanish industry, Spain has technology for it, GranTeCan, transportation and installation of big infrastructures of renewable equipment, engineering, financial institutions, special ships and cranes, floating concrete structures, big construction companies for acquire big scale soon, and the central tower can disappear into the dessert in case of mega hurricanes hiding it on earth like a rocket launchpad), what I want say is accelerate the process without doubt it even if other countries do not want do it, but overall say everybody do not doubt in get big scale in renewable for acquire low cost, factory cost, soon. The relative high cost of today is benefit soon because after energy is just few cost of maintenance, so the balance is positive like everybody knows). Worldwide fossils fuels receive each year subventions of 300.000 millions dollars, renewable energies the 10%, where is the pollution and where is the boom? What really reflects Standard and Poors, a poor standard of life measured in terms of sustainability, and even forgetting in globalisation the dynamic, flexible economy, and where is the 1% than stimulates productivity via fashion?

It is easy reduce cost of thermo-solar factories with little research, look some examples of traditional metal companies while they look eco-designed materials: following a recent study of CPS Today (October 2008) for build a thermo-solar plant of 100 MW is required 4.000 square meters, 25.000 acero tons, 12.000 crystal tons, 20.000 cubic meters of cement, and a plant for storage energy with 30.000 tons of capacity. Imagine the works for people experienced in construction logistic like Vobis Lend Lease. When I worked in Lend Lease, an Australian company, people told me the palets are an Australian invention, somebody got rest of wood for transport war material in train after 2nd World War for recycle metal in factories.

Avoid cement is relatively easy, together with save soil (Krinner method, -------), what you attract rays precisely when you are calling immense masses of clouds, unless you use a non metallic material.

The other possibility is precisely use metallic stakes, I saw in a book about Land Art and artist designing an artistic camp for attract rays, sorry I have not the reference now, so Ray Land Art together with other underground materials used instead of sales for storage ray (gases or water excited, or other materials like pig skin jaja conducting excess of punctual energy to a net of johads for pumping water, or install Ray Land Art camps precisely for attract storm routes forming new intentioned itineraries).

Other option consists in transport less weight, Alucoil developed parabolic mirrors with more resistance to form, transport and maintenance, www.alucoil.com (Almirr), employing 11 caps, so the richness of the mine consists in fabricate intelligent metal economising extractions, intelligent raw materials, and half-landscaped (protected with a ceramic cap or paint like Almirr mirrors). It is said main markets for thermo-solar plants are South Europe-North Africa, South EEUU, (Sloan sorry Sloar sorry Solar Plan Ue sorry UU sorry UE in next 10 years will rise to 38.000 millions euros imagine in EEUU), Middle East (imagine Middle East initiative which is now working in Dubai building project, applying oil and gas capital to thermo-solar plants, developing Masdar initiative at big scale with 0 emissions not only in maintaining but in design too, -----------, a more sustainable figure than imitate skyscrapers cities with a strong focus of local aesthetic, is people of SE Asia on time for preserve their historical building patrimony? but I think could be bigger and soon.

A publicity of SMA Solar Technology AG www.sma-iberica.com showed supplier technology like bags in a conveyor airport, or like a consume mass production line in a factory; flexibility of products, quick sales services and assistance could, like car industry did, proportion new logistic methods to Vobis and others, minimizing operations and soil impact.

Like i.e. the projected port of---. This port is located in environmental terms like almost all, following Murphy´s law, usually in wonderful biodiversity places, but in this case people are trying minimize impact forming an artificial landscape of dunes/compacted sands so is relatively easy redirect wildlife corridors. The effort for minimize movements is clear in the design, if the fashion of Molotov systems begins worldwide maybe linking all the parts of the port with flexible unions, is possible avoid severe climate changes thinking than is a beach non protected, so it means wildlife corridors will resists better than fix industrial installations and we can learn something from this fact. Is interesting this initiative, I think this port is going to help think a lot of about design projection of industrial activities, and ports.

Thinking in South Australia during an hypothetic brief Molotov season the floating marble concrete docks can be fixed easily with a low cost submarine rail, in which falls a series of mobile pieces from the dock than automatically adapts to the topography of the rail (did you knew spam developed the Tetris video game?).

Other option for the North part, or even for restore emergency energy if unexpected local disasters arrives, consists in use energy factories built directly over a ship (Snövit), or use floating chemical factories islands able to be fix, serving as protection and continuing designed landscapes for houses built in Dubai over the sea level in the sea, paying attention to natural flows of sea water or even restoring them for marine life too LNG, otherwise some people can remember the Spanish aphorism about construction over sea (el mar recupera siempre lo que es suyo, because through history the interest of people tends to change in geographical terms too),

Just mention than few decades ago some developed countries with the exception of France though than cement industry was secondary, outsourcible, because was few intense in technology, and there was a general opinion respect construction in general, with the exception of skyscrapers and temporal isolated icon sculpture buildings. Now think in economy in terms of management of urban space, and that includes flows of commodities, services, so logistic is included, globalisation too, internet too, tourism like leisure activity coming from previous activity too, intelligent raw materials too, floating structures than now are new land areas including parking and malls, energy factories and others, flexible economy in climate change weather time, renewable energies developed via these infrastructures than gives new values to the territories letting them transform autonomously (with fashion like engine and too stimulating productivity because beauty attracts investments, landscaping), and you will perceive how big was the strategy of undervalue construction elements and process in a over consume societies characterised by the philosophy of use and throw, including building, infrastructures and cities. Space management is economy, economy is in a big part potential of energy, energy is balanced with wildlife corridors and balanced weather gives energy, so space management is a fundamental energy tool in architecture.

Sincerely talking a common little effort in thermo-solar factories and logistics will help accelerate very quickly the massive transport of water and energy to all dry or dryer hand made areas of the world, ignitiating inverse carbon process. But do without dialog, although is legally correct because everybody has the right to refuse hand made desserts in own land, it is imprudent because in the best of cases modern hand made desserts coming from industrial times, and in the rest form part of agricultural-cattle legacy, so try solve in 5 years a centurial or millenary process by force is highly risked, and discuss other options depends of your motivation for expand dialogs of such nature, so it is time of big challenges for be successfully passed together, thinking in our descendants too. Sure the question is more than a mere new El Dorado, Spaniards we have tradition in fall in this tramp, and the rest of the world has tradition in fall of El Dorado tramps launched by Spaniards (and Portuguese before but at other scale) sailors, following the stele of ancient sailors arriving our land looking for El Dorado. So we can definitively learn from History.

The other option is PHOTOvoltaic installations, which can be linked by cables like wind-forest. This is the mobile part of Molotov system in comparison with thermo-solar factories and johad hydro-dam system. The productivity is aceptable, the 10% is near, can be massively and quick produced and transported. How many times should be moved these installations for attract storms? This depend of soil analysis, till secure a constant flame in dessert lighter. How many times Beethoven changed of home for compose the Sixth Symphony?, for show us “you could hear what I see”, “more an expression of feelings than a picture of sounds” (“más expresión de sentimientos que pintura de sonidos”)

Which is the efficiency of PHOTOvoltaic cells in relation with economy, 10% respect the 1%, and the potential of both respect the other 89%?

Rendimiento of Modules photovoltaics cells?

“Silicio monocristalino 12-15%
Silicio policristalino 11-13%
CIS 10-11%
Teleruro de Cadmio 9-11%
Silicio amorfo 5-7%
Saturno BP solar 15.5%
Sunpower (17.7%)
(I am not sure if this reference is of a company of Silicon Valley I saw in Genera with the 18%)
Sanyo HIT (amorfo + monocristalino) near 17%

Integration:

Where is the 1%? INN the colour—

Nuria Martín, CIEMAT, DIV Energía Fotovoltaica

“El color”

El color azulado que presentan las células de silito cristalino puede modificarse, y conseguirse tonos como el gris, verde, dorado o magenta. Estos cambios, sin embargo, pueden producir variaciones apreciables e el rendimiento del módulo fotovoltaico. Más sencillo es cambiar el color de la cubierta posterior, visible entre células o a través de ellas, según la tecnología. En los de CIS se pueden incluir en su superficie imprimaciones de diferente color, conformando distintos tipos de dibujos”, Ecoconstrucción, Marzo /abril, 2009 págs. 44-45, en “Las tecnologías fotovoltaicas actuales para integración en edificios”

I think mow the star in colour is www.sunways.de , with their offer of gold, silver, bronze and emerald solar cells.

Logos designed in cells are inside the 10%?

How the marginal cost of colour influence on the collective brain storming for create a sustainable economy? After the storm of an automated binomius water – energy for promote micro organism all is the same, if we do not love us with limited resources, are we ready for do it with relatively unlimited resources? joy is not a consume product, even if somebody wants sell it to you in pills or others standard formats while you are promoting tsunamis or after, the world will be continue being of colour grey, the mask of abundance do not changes nothing.

Give colour to the storm is not tampoco---- the solution. May be participation could be useful.

Who gives colours to photovoltaic cells? At Genera I asked this many times, and the year automated answer was: it proportions less efficiency. And I answered, who wants full efficiency? , promoting diversity demand will burst and it will help productivity better than a slow way of researching, who wants decorate the landscape only of black? The old question of Fordian model, do not fall in risk with fashion initially, laboratory thinking, but sure not biological laboratory. The real answer is than talk of efficiency in a suicide economy model leaded by extreme rational consideration, considering an growing isolating world like an experiment laboratory, with a perspective of human liberty diminished to a false standard behaviour reduce version, is absurd.

Some people reaction from the beginning with joy to the possibility of colours in cells because they felt the same but customers do not ask for it and customers do not know it exists. Other people answered favourably when perceived than fashion, proximity to consume products and houses, could promote sales and productivity, loosing productivity now for introduce massively new markets, getting money for get improvements in productivity.

Grass, plants, trees, parks, forest and others help solar cells be in constant optimal rendimeinto (i.e. in Asia with bamboo quick growth renewable aesthetic www.futurarc.com), so photovoltaic efficiency is green, so efficiency do not depends of cells. And if you add other techniques like little burbles you increase the surface in a 6% with the same extension, and…many ideas will come or are already working about efficiency. Imagine Panamá city, “pure concrete” in tropical area like people says, full of panels without green areas, and efficiency if a coordinated effort is done, improving too the quality of life.

The line between raw materials, fix buildings(inmovilizado), equipment investment (bienes de equipo), intermediate goods (bienes intermedios) and consume products is each time more blurring because and intelligent consume product can proportion energy, so maybe is convenient add other paintbrush to the Series Collection, the Green Line.

A consume product is not always for use and throw, can be recyclable, intelligent (www.solarjo.com ), intelligently recyclable (egreen), e-fashionable too (i.e. turning colours of the bag, without risk for health with the presence of energy or radiations near the body), or can be it self both a consume product an i.e. and equipment investment, now in Spain there is people than invests in photovoltaic modules in their home like a complement for pension fund, thinking in selling electricity to others. In this last case we traverse a standard classical barrier of the classical economy (that thinking in fix nature movements), because a consume product like i.e. Solarjo´s bag can proportion sold energy to other people, or even services charging a handy or providing internet access.

And the point here is not only than a consume product proportion richness to others by own consume, the challenge is than in our millenary travesea looking for transform nature for find ourselves with some exceptions, the energy is a priority in a managed image for get it. So an investment in water and energy in dry or dryer areas could have the effect of an espejismo if is not correctly managed, but can re-evaluate real state of the whole island by itself because real potential of economy simply burst, economy is expectancy of confiance. Initially investment in renewable energies generally is higher in comparison with “no-renewable” sources, but once you got the investment return you got an half automated system for develop economy at minimal cost of maintenance, and all is located on the area including buildings are overvalued.

What is more, like the man in wheelchair than found architectural solutions for get an appropriate ad hoc standard house cheaper than a standard one, daily urban habits than save home money just for apply them can finance without problems the costs of saving home measures than cost money, getting more benefits for people in a routine domestic self-finance operation, taking in consideration than i.e. in USA houses consumes more energy than the transport and than cities are the world bigger focus of energy consume, so without public money and with common sense you can promote regulations of fomento for give transitions periods in order to adapt habits.

If you think here there are winners and losers then be sure you are a loser, let´s go try avoid repeat again the moving of a lot of people with the excuse of IT . Auto-finance economy changing quietly some habits proportion richness and growth with the same GNP, an heresy in economy -you must grow for advance -, just reordering internal efficacy, stimulating additionally good consumers with marginal benefit taxes, so those who managed energy and other items correctly – measured i.e. via electricity bills –are favoured, with special taxes emphasis in low budget families. Anyway standard transport will continue promoting nature Countdown together with non eco-design consume products, so multilateral initiatives are the successful.

Progressive non stop transition (in Spanish sin prisa pero sin pausa) gives time to producers to change habits respect their goods, and new opportunities will appear so formation will be necessary for create new employments, and is of the interest of all pay this formation together. So the Green Line defines which habits promotes transition to sustainability, and directly or indirectly, the wet tsunami.

Than Line Green is bigger than I expected in terms of tendency, is astonishing because this Line changes nature of economy if this fundamental aspect, it increases the capacity of economy by the fact itself of a growing capacity of environment transformation, which is one of the core of economy, the other is realise it, so if you have this potential all the application are partially secondary, and the importance of productivity even can be partially secondary respect fashion (in terms of personalize own tastes), because productivity has been almost machinerised, but not for create employment like millions of people barriendo streets controlling people like in ancient wheat economies, but promoting real opportunities. Maybe in the past the risk was the absence of knowledge, now the risk can be the absence of initiative, although in both cases I think our freedom was intact, my liberty do not depends of other´s attitudes or nature.

Green Line goods and services do not brings us to the “do yourself”, the autonomous economy always forgets the fact than we live in society, for get increasing capacities you need increasing experience of others and supplier materials too, and these are not related with richness or a frugal way of life because both situations do not reflects human potential, human being, both situations are directed by Brown Line, that than delineate historically the chronica-l and growing scarcity, these situations in the best of cases minimise or neutralise human ecological impact, but not promote nature recovery to neighbour areas because tends to be autonomous, isolated, incomplete in terms of potential, nobody develops alone wet tsunamis, nobody can does. Maybe books will reflect this historical transition, Green Line is mid made from Brown Line which is storm made.

Coming back to Molotov system, thermo-solar factories can desalinize sea water coming from wind-dams and pump it distributing energy too through photovoltaic installations like mobile par, and the johad net mainly like secondary fix part, both irrigating territory like a dessert for create a jungle (the almohade distribution of water for create gardens is an example for economise water and create micro climates, humidity attracts humidity). Dust storms distribute micro organism through the world, are like gardeners, and birds imitates this function together with flying insects, so refugees for these protagonists are fundamental, and the Australian experience managing fauna movements is really high, a school for other parts.

Are you thinking in big trees too for protect animals from Molotov winds, forming forests? A web of Pomerade people (Brazilians, German-descents, unfortunately I did not write their reference on time) introduced me to the employment of eucalyptus timber in Brazil, with high productivities. Some time ago these productivities probably were found too in other parts of Australian areas (BBC—Meeting with monsters). A part of the Greek fleet using adapted ships (Beluga system -----with transparent roofs and biological bodegas---could massively transport part of the sustainable production to Australian Pomerade exploitation (I think their trademark is Australis) and others , financing the restoration of Brazilian jungle with typical tropical forest employing the same system (a fertile land automatically is revalued, and a dessert is useless for many uses, including big scale sustainable agriculture for people from favelas, and helping stop Amazonian deforestation), and exploiting valuable woods with different techniques (amazonia----), because this timber each time is going to be more expensive due scarcity (when I was coming back from Ivory Coast I met with two experts representatives from República Dominicana, somebody sent them for get new suppliers of wood without mention than technically the country was in war, so they were shocked).

But the experience of Venezuela using timber from different tropical areas of the country shows us be careful respect transport mortal insects, a friend told me Australian toll agents looked dangerous products for environment in tourist bags, people is tired of experiments. So if timber products could be dangerous, imagine the complete tree and all the micro organisms dancing around. A chemistry specialist developed a special paint for interior houses for avoid reproduction of Mal de Chagas insect inside shantytowns, it is ridiculous how easy is sometimes avoid tragedies, -----.

Anyway the experience of Pomerade people in Australia and others can proportion guidelines of actuation respect this subject.

Like worker´s houses, employing minimal space for energy production in a continental country is basic, what I learnt in Llley Project is not undervalue the importance of wildlife corridors hubs, land areas specially resistance by nature to any change of weather, and land areas resistance to biodiversity changes (some of them are documented even via storytelling, others must be discovered in practise).

Store water in johads real or landscaped is not difficult and is other automated source of distribution for irrigate lands with autonomous solar energy with PHOTO(1%)voltaic installations once the water has been transported via thermo-solar factories. In, and then photovoltaic solutions are better, in Mauritania recently has been opened the first world solar pumping system getting water from -80 meters up to +20 meters, and others are coming www.giramundo.net ---Again is possible apply here energy systems protected from Molotov winds because are easy to close. And if you design to levels you can pump daily water to upper tank for get energy during night for irrigate water with less evaporation, or even for connect all johads. In fact this system could be launched in the hardest points for combat Molotov winds, they have less power and are fix, but are more protected, maybe could form part of distribution water system for future uses sacrificing part of the soil today, or be transportable if necessary, or be biodegradable.

Changing flows of waters can require online-on real time new little dams, johads, or mobile walls, in Setenil de las Bodegas (Cádiz), the 10+1% is made of mobile stone bancales (piedra seca) linked by nets, than could be isolated respect water too, so are like doors of flexible dams, and this ideas could be adapted to the mountainous shantytowns (some universities dealing with reconstruction architectural projects have announced here but I have not the references, from Barcelona and Copenhagen I think), or fabricate this bancales with curves for resist better soil movements, thinking too in transportation systems like trains and others. Near Orozko (Bizkaia) I saw a big open mine with some pines planted in upper abandoned parts, for landscape it, this is other solution for protect bancales, make the general structure of rock in critical points (+1% www.arroway.de , stonepanel etc ).

The Molotov system could be enriched mixing elements too, i.e. photovoltaic installations can be hybrid www.absolicon.se (Solar8 concentrates energy while acts like a photovoltaic cell), and of course all photovoltaic installations are more efficiency not only if green but if mobile, following the sun like a flower-------olivatorras www.sunplusenergy.com gets 30% of efficiency just moving cells, sunenergygirasol, or designing structures able for be transportable (Krinner system of www.dalkia.solar.es , transported i.e. with conveyors------- by other machines moving like an animal www.strandbeest.com , just using wind and sun, and proportioning vapour to soil without destroy it (i.e. following Israeli techniques employed in agriculture, 4x4 is not a recommendable in this sense).

Although this sketches are already partially obsoletes, see in the attached file Figures

Photovoltaic producers are expanding worldwide www.xiansesolar.com , solarzentrum-havellande www.lvtsun.com , and electronic-ceramic producers are local www.talison.com.au , so it is not difficult deal with the 10%, and even design ships i.e. for the Greek fleet, for transport them www.clubbmarinedesign.com.au

Molotov system is burningly low cost: an automated system with a posterior low cost distribution of electricity because sources is local, and a low cost distribution of water because it is expanded using non irrigated systems.

The productivity (10%) of the system to economy creates real net richness soon if design and maintenance is correct in an initial hard environment (easier if the scale of weather activity is low), and the landscaping (1%) promotes social participation at exponential scale too simply because people love what is watching and one dream calls to others, like Anita Roddick wrote, prosperous places are stimulants, and non nice places soon stop be prosperous (I talk about this subjects thinking in illusion, which is not something you can buy or sell, it is personal)

So how you and me can us see (I understand while I am writing) the spider web this time is wet, but mobile because the wildlife corridors are spontaneous, non geometrical necessarily (the fractal skeleton design of Australian water is in part unknown), and non logic initially (we have not sufficient initial data).

Not always is required the same energy in the same points fordestimulate tsunamis or little waves, like no always is required too the same quantity of water supply, so the transport network is mobile too in this period. But for talk of transport maybe it is necessary talk of colour too.

I.e. the Red Australian Dessert, can be a road red? How many oil recyclable commodities are in Australia for build strong and light mobile roads, empty inside? Empty for what? Ford transport water using electro – roads inspiration www.eco-raec.com, this road have elevated points than proportion energy with the pass of vehicles, so roads can be integrated in the distribution of water and energy of the Molotov system, the mere presence of infrastructures promotes humidity and energy expanding intelligently through territory if eco-designed. www.okuonline.de, www.megawatt.es, fabricates between others red collectors for move hot water with energy proposes, www.nobel.gr produces accumulators with red frameworks for landscape installations in German houses and works with other colours for other solar instruments, www.sunways.de produces coloured PHOTOvoltaic cells for additional energy, and www.energia-termica-avanzada.com camouflages every cells if necessary, www.parabel-solar.de, www.unisolar.com , www.flexcell.com, www.filmsolar.es and others gives solar skin for adapt landscape architecture…and roads relieve?, so the energy road can be designed like a camaleon, not only for landscape but for talk with animals, with animal movements in changing weather, signalling like landscape art www.signale.com.

How manage people this language?

Walking many times to the underground station I saw the cross of the church I commented respect colours in buildings, in the forum Cathedral of Light. Depending of the weather and because the cross is made of different material respect the structure than stands it, sometimes the figure is clearly appreciated from distance, others merely, and others, few times, looks than almost floats on the air, depending the rays of light between clouds. So I began in think in distance signals in Australia inside quickly weather changes, try avoiding e-instruments for not produce aerial pollution, in order to do not disturb the behaviour of animals, and avoiding too light pollution during day or night, and noise pollution, for better understand the process.

In the valuable book------------ Harvard School of Design,----, this maps were not included, but in addition let me suggests their maps dealing with ---helped me consider many aspects of landscape I ignored, and their map tools, although static, are highly recommendable for consider present buildings, locations and monuments between others in Australian landscape . Of course satellite, handy and others resources are disposable, but they idea is understand how built with fauna and flora not only minimising effects but if possible promoting their flows while building, with the 1% too.

And why not a talking road? In SIMA I saw a company representative manipulating a digital panel (www.ghesafuentes.com) fuente-puente animal paths-----) in which many animals figures was represented, so the man selected one, and a water curtain showed the figure. Who is interested in see this figure, and why in water characters? Humidity attracts animals, is a natural signal. Once I saw an Australian TV documental dealing with plagues, in this case big sapos—crossing the roads, probably they were smelling humidity. If you promote a burst of nature the first are going to do animals is move, and with bigger resources their proliferation is a natural process, and migrations can be motivated too for avoid predators.

A now include lambs, millions of lambs. In S. XVI century Spanish monarchs promoted the Mesta, the organised movement of millions of cattle, mainly lambs, through territory, probably one the first historical election towards big scale dynamic economy. The choice was between agriculture and cattle. Due Spain latitude and extent, historical and millenary migration of domestic cattle was managed for get winter grass lands, and with the Reconquista the road was longer and longer. The demand of whool from North Europe for fabricate clothes and the financial resources coming from American continent initiated a bigger scale of dynamicity bad promoted, because many low income people migrated to America. So Spain was a flow traduced in architectural terms more in isolated art than in common well being commodity, in the sense than part of the cities industries in the sense of activities stopped and not only due intolerance expulsions, and even was outsourced -Cuba was in 1770-1780 the world biggest producer of ships, then a big qualified industry before machines -, so the skills were concentrated in few areas, yes giving nice city planning views, but forcing a part of the society to migrate. And this fact was common respect other parts of West Europe after the second Reconquista was initiated. So promote movement measures without coordination is simply useless.

Many studies have showed good and bad (dryer) practices of Mesta respect environment. I do not know them, I just read a little bit here and there, but maybe where the flexible Mediterranean forest, the dehesa, has been maintained, it has promoted richness avoiding mono-crops, vegetals or animals, and the centripete economy has been compensated by centrifugue---.

Then maybe talking roads in Australia could be multifunctional, managing information for manage flows.

Perhaps the challenge for Australian ganadero---is not avoid dingo but move with them through all the territory helped by dogs protected with iron necks, like people does in Sierra de la Culebra (Zamora, Spain) for protect their cattle from wolfs, the area with bigger density in West Europe. Even people there constructs refugees for lambs with a false wall where wolf is caught when jumps trying to introduce. Finally wolfs tends to persecute wild animals, is less difficult. But the problem is the Mancha, which means La Seca, The Dry.

Competition with kangaroos (many millions) will be the problem not only for humans but for the full ecosystem, I do not know predators role in their life cycle, roads can develop too the function of be dry barriers too, stopping interest for kangaroos respect them, creating selective visually dry barriers to their perception.

And considering too first inhabitants boomerang safaris activities. Some animals are vegetarians but never ask us if we are vegetarians too or not, they just try to eat all they see promoting dessert and enlarging Molotov season.

How can a road stop kangaroos, how can stop the Manchas occasioned by them? (I think now there are around some decenes of millions). May be promoting dry areas around, then virtually mobile infrastructures should be always at far distance from wildlife corridors. Additional options are dry odours than kangaroos can associate to unproductive lands.

Kangaroos jumps, how avoid this and other animals cross red roads?

Water language is visible at distance? Ñues runs after storms in savannahs for get wet grass, kangaroos perhaps see birds flight to water, maybe water presence modifies electro magnetic camps softly and some animals perceive it like bees, trees near the road can be electrocuted by rays and could be dangerous for people and not only by crashes but fires too or massive animal movements, natural vegetal barriers just attracts faunas both by water and refugee. And promote oasis at same formal distance form from mobile roads can be a bad practice, spontaneous ray fires can appear, and, even if roads are ignifuged.

I saw in an architectural review an landscaped (brown, red) overpass in think in Melbourne, sorry I did not got the reference, so kangaroos can pass by some parts without jump (wildlife corridors kangaroo). Then animal overpass can be selected doors for animal flows, and that exists naturally in abundance in mountainous areas.

Mountainous areas are going to experience first storms, are natural parapets and water towers. For get ideas in hills with or without vegetation see Figures---in the attached file, including 1%.

Then maybe these are the most interesting points for expand wildlife animals. But in Australian mountains lives many people so even if grass is extended attracting millions of kangaroos you collapse the area…unless you ignition the system thinking in action Molotov system in distant parts fomentando prairies, so the density of kangaroos will decrease in populated areas while prairies are colonised, and dingos are there, so maybe during a time dingo fence can have some doors opens for selected the number of exemplars of kangaroo and lambs there, in order to proportion natural excrements too for increase micro organisms activities. Then the activity of water supply should be intense here, together with Land Ray Art power stations attracting not only energy but storms over prairies. With the risk of call tsunamis, but you can stop the process modifyng the quantity of water or the number of herbivorous. Murray – Darling basin will benefit in these moments of a bigger water supply.

So step by step, it is nice say this, you can get a growing garden. This is the theory. What Antarctica “think” in terms of re-equilibrate energy stability, I have not idea, with good management may be the process can be gradual, it is relatively easy of stop by areas.

I did not was interested in Genera about biomass machines because my interest was in natural recycling for promote micro organism, probably I was mistaken not including references, in this web appeared many times www.pmrenergy.com and others. My interest was uniquely in a mobile unit, www.aldavia.com , and I think this is more aproppiated, because even be employed for promote selectively storm places via the presence of vegetation maybe promoting concentration of clouds. But should be interesting too dispose of fix bi

[erjavi]

Look for security for persons working with bad weather is the communication code for signalling, so in case of emergence because weather change is it necessary avoid dry areas, avoiding work there too, because are more exposed to violence of elements. During storms some telecommunication systems are more secure. Aeronautical components must have an efficacy 100/10 respect normal ones, but even with huge storms do not always works well, and spontaneous effects of magnetic camps could appear disturbing communications.

Señal que se ve con cambio de tiempo---Area verde refugio tormentas—plan evacuacion---Areas secas no ir---areas secas aleja animal—area humeda atrae tormenta—rayos atrae tormenta zoan seca---zona verde despues atrae animals-concentrate animals is a dryer practice-—carrtera corta flujo---carrtetera lejos diseño fractal,holamdna we do not know water skeleton- ---van zonas moviles, automatizadas—carrtera remueve o no by sections open air zoo inverse—piezas carreteras se mueven otras no-turismo quiere ver eso.(first tours areas more inestable)—comunciacion infaestrucutra tormenta--krannich

practice) from first oasis and others. It will help concentrate animals (dry practice)not so near from infrastructure initially, and can help design flow stimulations. Think in Aral Sea, Chad SEa attracting storms, Victori Lake, transports promoting sustainability. And saving obstacles with the 1% adapted to Molotov winds, forming a mobile net respect soil (Melbourne paso elevado------)
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. Traffic water lights in close circuit including illumination (forcade-----) can indicate walkers or drivers the flows in each moment, for nature observers too in relax road areas.

The road itself is a distributor of water or energy via vapour in coordination with Molotov system, helped by photovoltaic installations helped by electric roads (electro kinetic roads for attract storms www.eco-raec.com, including rays for storage them with underground slaes—like thermo-solar factories, all the road is a pararrayos--, an energy vector, intelligent roads, and auto-mobile with self vapour for new optimal locations, www.strandbeest.com ----).

The Spanish delegation of Krannich Solar sent me a mail giving thanks for the conversation and inviting me to Intersolar 2009 in Munich (www.es.krannich-solar.com, aleman------, munich-------). I was occupied writing this mail and working in catering so unfortunately it was not possible for me visit Munich, a city with wonderful recuerdos---for me.

It looks than not only Germans have experience for break walls for better understanding people.

In Krannich publicity there is a photo than called my attention, a PHOTOvoltaic panel used like a touchable computer (dansign, panels digitales coloreados que s epsian---). And appeared too a company with a sloar sloan solar communicator product, Solar Log--- Solare Datensysteme , transference of data to internet using land renewable installations -. Then looking carefully the Krannich visit card I saw it was standard. So turning it there was a standard solar logo too, a girasol----, with something non standard, a bee.

www.dansign.com colores pisados-----------------
So I began think in a non aerial polluted and non dangerous for human health
communication process associated with renewable energies, Solarbees Communication System (SCS), because Molotov system is associated with wildlife corridors in a dialogue between people respect nature, breaking standard walls.

Of course conventional handy should be use for important events, employing i.e. hydrogen cells for transmission telecommunication towers and antennas (www.ajusa.es ), so the 10% is got in communications and even less because the cost of data transference in handy is really low, what is expensive are communication installations and these are low cost in the case exposed.

Of course additional element, the 1% are www.solarjo.com , www.sma-iberica.com for servers together with other parts of the 10% (like FANUC factories of robots produced by robots, the solar process is each time more automated, in Genera thera was a Taiwan company I think advertising it was the first in integrate all the vertical process from raw materials to post-sales services but I did not got information because in this moment I was thinking only in the 1%, a Spanish local example is www.isofoton.es ,
Reis Line factor, 60 modules/hour –“The new line is totally automated. No processes are touched by human hand from cell manufacture to panel assembly”-, but at other scale and without the 1% ), www.senso.pt for laptops managing storms via rendering and others, voltaic solar bags too and made form 100% recycled PET (soda bottles), etc, and other equipments www.ecokits.es (racksack, handy, MP3, solar watches, solar lighters, solar cups with ventilator and sun glasses (or folk Australian hats).

1&, that means then than mobile photovoltaic systems could be employed like telecommunication antennas too (Oliva Torras….., sunenergy-----,


It is said than SCS natural system follows nature storm changes
… By colours of changing nature? An Austrian company a simple idea of reflecting mirrors in roads for signal the way. This could be intelligent too and change of colour if smog, storms, plagues, animals flows, etc, connected via SCS. And this simple element
can be used too like interface with nature. 10+1%.------------swarowski







Colour signals in a landscape moving can be itself an art, like the construction example of the white crane in Ronda, visual language, even with sounds too, can activate melodies, like alarms when sharks enter in some Australian beaches. SOLar faroles and others can express many things during Molotov season---china farola solar, and disabled people is able to work with computers without sea or touch screens, it is important than solar modules are clean (non accumulation of dust or rubís thanks to design www.heliosphera.com, together with other more conventional –antidust—graphix----unisolar marron,------)

RossAshton—laserau---









The road is able for transit eco-designed trucks carrying renewable commodities, specially solar materials (www-shultzenbelt conveyor----).

I have notdriving license, for me a car is a mass of 1-2 tons than is useful for refugee in case of rain if I have the key of the door. The key is than you do not need a car for travel, like the first inhabitants of Australia time ago, and like many people does now like sport. The first person that gave round the world alone was------, and he did not used car too. Once I saw in TV a man that was giving round the world employing all transport systems available, I think near 200. Walking people arrive far for meet with others----lonely planet---- I understand car are comfortables but innecesary for be free: unfrastructures can be designed in many ways inside a dessert, let´s go fly imagination, down and up.---------------

Which vehicles could be designed for red or camaleon--roads? Coming back to Earl designing cars, General Motors is changing from Hollywood cars to wood cars, PUMA, sustainable cars. (New got from www.energias-renovables.com). In the last New York Automotive Saloon GM presented the PUMA (Personal Urban Mobility and Accsesibility), an electric car than can turn over itself for get a new direction, two persons, sufficient for the 80% urban cars real use. This a joint venture with Segway, which produced 60.000 units of an electrical patinete--- of 25 kms autonomy. PUMA has 60 kilometres. Finally tunning!!!!!!!! The manufacturer thinks in personalize practically from the factory? So we are talking about a 15%¿¿??? Maybe is possible apply the big scale except components quick to adapt, like sometimes does buses manufacturers. The speed is 56km/h, may be a compromise between a potent not always used in cities and the potent of personalize them at near factory cost, together with the interface connectivity IT outside the vehicle - only recognise other pumas, the same specie, a V2V system – for avoid accidents (optional) and sincronize the speed of the rest of vehicles—virtual routes—, although automatic cars do not means robotize drivers, we must be prudent with dreams ingenier about efficiency maximizing transport with minimal resources.

V2V system focuses too in avoid effect worm or acordeon traffic, but there are other solutions, change the complex structure of the math web counter I referred--- and you will have new fractal traffic designs, a water gota ----is like a permanent matrix than can take form of a new fractal design of growth and change or “evolution” to a new design with new in puts – outputs are received, and that data can be voluntarily supported by intelligent car crystals photovoltaic transparent changeable panels.

Other solution of PUMA for traffic is when you arrives and for avoid collapse due parking limited spaces you get a different entrance route for parking or descend persons while you follow driving, this is a good system for cities than go work with neighbour or friends, even with leasing cars just for work time (www.betterplace.com ). Other solutions with more potent cars are GM Volt/Ampera, 50% of world population lives in cities. And where is the 1%, in the tea or in the coffee? India car producer Tata has an agreement with Italian industrial designer Pininfarina for get it, maybe initially at 10% cost, but the possibilities are open.

Other systems, like 4 persons automated electrical monorail Skycab (www.skycab.es ) sounds more urban in terms of high density cities where concrete installations are a reality unless you develop special Krinner methods (Masdar---UE---in a more general perspective of 0 carbon emissions, with interesting perspectives of turtle wall exterior designs thinking in Molotov winds, with ulterior developments when the weather was stable). All this systems are quite interesting in societies like Chinese in which a big transition between bicycles and standard cars is occurring, so last could be first with a best urban air environment, better technologies for grow, and less exterior oil bill.

Because transport is a promoter of tsunami maybe hydrogen vehicles are the key for proportion humidity to the air in order to facilitate clouds formations, together with solar vehicles and human force, of course. Wind and hydro electricity for pump and transport water together with electrical-solar collector roads, thermo-solar factories and PHOTOlandscapedvoltaic installations for help direct surface natural winds and distribute energy and water (regando como un desierto para fomentar formenter Formentera una selva focusing efforts in little spontaneous oasis islands, forming a wet spiderweb) for promote wildlife corridors, solar but overall hydrogen transport system for promote humidity and supported by electrolysis energy format, an exponential Fordone (Ford+1%) ignition system applied to every world dry or drier areas.

How many times is necessary transport the Molotov, or part of it? How many times changed Beethoven of home for compose the Pastoral?

Workers in this period can benefit of many transport good practices which are themselves brain storming initiatives. Mobile solar bicycle stations for electrical bicycles volunteer observers Salamanca www.bicisol.com can storage their instruments too, www.solarjo.com , , coordinated in areas like www.betterplace.com Santoña--------

Water Marathon, long durée vehicles adapted to this territory, Air Liquide (www. Air l -------www.airliquide.es)------ is one of the pioneers hydrogen service stations, Hychain, because the air is going can be liquide soon; Air Products/Carburos Metálicos (www.airproducts.com/h2energy, because we are going get consume products from air energy, www.carburos.com/productos_sectoriales/hidrogen_pilas.html ) developed mobile hydrogen stations form 1993, other people develop hydrogen generators via water electrolysis www.hywo.es ,
eolica---sales termosolar—EEUU Germany Spain—water distributors—alberca---biodiversity---España—
doble bombeo-
store it in hydrogen www.sotaventogalicia.com form wind mediante electrolysis del agua
store in electric cars
store energy for houses—from wind, charge batterys, Xcel Energy – NGK Insulators 7MW, and Grupo Saft and ABB world first battery of high voltage


Cars equipped with solar roofs (www.sunways.de , ventilating the car with the motor stopped), electrical roads proportion SOS energy, www.eco-raec.com , solar parkings
With +1% (www.es.krannich-solar.com parking PT Walka in Huesca, Spian, installed by Enática, www.nobel.gr , coloured parking in Bern, Switzerland, etc) then parkings can be too solar stations, for Marathon Solar vehicles------; but not only parkings, factories too (Termocampa (Madrid), owned by Bergé Automotive Logistic, uses a solar thermal energy system used to heat water to 50% for cleaning vehicles www.isofoton.es ), and houses, Europe´s Solar Service Group—SYSTAIC—an energy roof designed for charge electric cars or solar car roofs---------

Connecticity maybe is a question of intermodality/sizable transport systems (Protusnamis Logistic Triangle----ship containers dividable---train—truck for get Bermudas indumentary arriving lands,capes and other tourism places) , getting General Movement with maximum of persons and commodities transports with minimum of vehicles and energy use, landscaped too, avoiding light, sound and air waves pollution, nature is moving, let optimal manage, let´s go walking more like first inhabitants did.

Maybe next TNT explosion is not speed but promote local growth (TNT-----)
National geographic june 2009 buildings, and not cars, produced more CO2 in USA, so there are more machines in houses than in roads (General movement and standardised architecture), new houses are 45% biggers than 30 years ago but this new space is not mainly occupied by machines, but consume products.

How flight over Australia, Air Airways? Maybe in the Meeting Point you can get information (Challenge Bibendum---Lonely Planet---). The old Australina couple fliying 1.000 kms /day planning I com.meted sorry com.neted could be with Molotov winds nothing. Then maybe motorplanners electrical supplied and others measures could be needed too Swiss doors------), equipped with wildlife corridor materials----helicoptero suizo----

, Solar Water Pump—italian aircraft----flying doctors--balloon---helvetica wildlife corridor--adpated--planners observers---older Australian couple--- captador solar rojo distribuidor agua--------------


compressors stations PDC Machines/Ariema www.ariema.com-----------

big flights IATA Fitur compromise with reduce emissions, fomento in fresh-air-port taxes of hybrid flights using different fuels like cars and combine them with efficient terrestrial transport methods, real connectivity more than competition itself, hydrogen-solar engines supported by air solar station crafts, in definitive propmote (propulsion promoting) spiral process of green aviation. Spiral hydrogen motors?, solar injection? How know the future

Winners and losers? Australian lives in the Antipodes, people like …newgencoal—tallison---uranium producers and others are in the scene ready for permofance of traditional roles: all are winners. Additional energy can be obtained from coal through low impact techniques-----, but really the job consists not in carbon sequestration, because with sever climate tsunamis the hot gas flow over some new crack, but in deposit non recyclable waste mixed with liquid for mining inundation, so earthquake movements will be minor, waiting for be pumped and recycled when micro organism technologies advance (i.e. Egypt IBM-------), getting money from ecotaxes, and selling final products like raw materials for a country changed needed for them.

Other mines have performance uses inside a territory object of really impressive land art, clear night sky observatories (there is a light law in the canary island of La Palma for protect astrophysical observatories), inside a unique world cultural, educational and museum net, a machine for tourism too (Chillida----montaña). Imagine miners like ownerships of the Australian Natural Concert Scenario, with music of all tendencies, together with museums of arts, etc, without forget than in Molotov season are perfect logistic and storage places. And you can keep free always for exploit the best locations, even for strategically reserve.

Transitions have many shades (matices) for get final objective soon: some people is hardly researching in recycling metals or minimise carbon use--------, others try to make low impact and more resistant and elastic structures ---itialinao, ruso----the challenge is be able to exploit metal and fossil fuel without ecological impact and do not touch and restore sensible areas respect earthquakes and others in case of severe climate changes. Maybe metals and fossil fuels will be considered soon luxury elements by scarcity in sustainable terms. And we have tons and tons of metal and fossil fuels non re used in buildings than will not arrive to XXII century, think about that. Or are you already researching in add some chemical composition to built concrete for avoid dismantle buildings by descomposition---?

Of course there are other forms of reduce carbon emissions. I.e. China is going to build 700 new centrals in the next 10 years and some people exhibit new ideas:

Abengoa is already at carbon central level, the first is going to be built in USA in-------------innovative State is a challenge for the rest. The cost is about 4.000 millions euros, but more demand will soon decrease the 10% cost.

In Texas people is not worry at all with this challenge, Austin electrical company has avoid the construction of a new carbon central employing low consume domestic machines (Nat geo--------------).

A report of WWF presented in an U.N. meeting in Bonn this year showed how 12 Swedish initiatives could reduce carbon emissions in astronomical data. And other report showed innovative actions in India for get the same objective in a different context, working with illiteracy people too. (WWF-Picoterm---use of carbon printfood reuce emissions

As you can see I did not talked practically nothing of other renewable energies, like biomass, bio-fuels, etc, because Molotov season is an attraction water through crops. It is true than sometimes there is a peak of stock susceptible to be removed from original post and not reused (think i.e. collateral effects of attracting plagues), so mobile biomass machinery can be useful www.aldavia.com like this innovative mobile biomass container able to be integrated in the intermodal transport system.


Eolic coastal-hydraulic—parque eolico marino acantilado eolica dock bilbao no efecto ladera, concrete dock floating----more moving---

Sea-eolic-dam-solar---energy—water-distribution—ignition nature at bigger scale—mobile wind systems ¿? Or wind in interior vs coast¿? Or hydroelectric in mountains when bomass arrives? More easy get the 10% in termosolar than eolic or photovoltaic, sounds more “industrial”?— biofuel, biomass depends of the previous…
For other islands--------------



Is the time for proportion vegetable support, these figures are now partially obsoletes, I include some ideas of Llley Project but only the graphics now See in attached files ------Figures-----





Abengoa- termic central Arizona 4000 millions euros—precision technique get soon the 10%—substitution by consume efficient products like in—National Geographic
Develop ideas collective brian storming Australia—Africa- argentina-a port in nidia, many more butterfly chaos theory--------------------winds-------------------tagus lissabon--www.mileniosolar.com
WWF—Vertical Wind, Absolicon, Ecoera, NordIQ---Air to Air, Svenks Rökgasenergi---Capital Cooling, Morphic
Suntech, Sharp and Q-Cells FV carbon 2/3 parts of energy---700 central sin 10 years WorldWacht Institute

WWF Clima Bonn UN April 2009---Climate Entrepeneurs Sweden---reduce emissions of 12 is equivalent to 600 millions carbon tons (Australia, Argentina and Belgium)—“es la primera vez en la historia que nuestra supervivencia está amenazada por una tecnología que precisa ser reemplazada”---100% subvenciones 300000 millions dolars --renewables/year---33000. SO, where is the boom?---


So many perspectives, so many possibilities, what is sure is than more dialog and more information exponential solutions will be appear. Now we are talking only a few millions of persons, may be approximately 10 millions directly or indirectly, but in home there are more. I think one person one voice, what do you think about it?

Now imaging all dessert moving, many details to communicate, many rendenrings to share, not only in Australia but worldwide.

In the attached file Fig 49 shows all landscaping moving in a mature period. A mix of Jurassic Park, first inhabitants, scientists, hunters, cattle movements, eco-placements for farmingfirst, so secondary houses and cities are coming, of course you can design cities without crops but this is a non standard criteria in the history of the cities, and this supposed you must supply food in other forms employing more resources (of course some people can remember this comment is unapropiated due the Cain´s syndrome, if you see i.e. Catal Huyuk in Turquey you can appreciate all the city was an entire fortress, houses without windows and doors and people entering via staircase from the flat roofs, people entering in houses more closer to thumbs, but even in Catal Huyuk there was some places for agriculture-- wikipedia------). It is difficult isolate completely urban life from food sources but it is sure if you want look for you are going to find it because always there are extreme circumstances through history than lead to it.

The landscape showed is a mix of moving Jurassic Park and civilized placements with some open doors, and the art consists in not destroy or domesticate nature, but in learn how help life burst of activity together, in Llley Project there are some references to this, including eco-tourism. When USA scientists asked the unfortunately defeated—Michael Crhicton--- how he got communicate massively with people about dinosaurs, and interesting debate was open. In figure--- locations already exists, in a hand made dessert animals will initiate their wildlife corridors following storms like bison did in North America, or weather like caribou and rens does at higher latitudes. In holidays I visited Ramales de la Victoria, a village of Cantabria near Laredo than has wolfs, and not far of there in Liébana, there are bears. I forgot my experiences in places like these when I commented the possibility of go to Croatia and Slovenia for learn about animal behaviour in relation with houses and infrastructures.

This landscape shows the potential of Andalucía after the Castilian landscape vision effects, Castilla – León, Castilla – La Mancha, three toponymy of war and the fourth without trees, La Mancha means “La Seca”, The Dry, but part od Andalusian landscape is becoming a pre-dessert because is hand made, like a big portion of the Castilian.

Literary figured a Basque chronicler leaved the mountains and saw the vast extension of the Castilian plateau, horizons for dream, because he heard people inside the Castles and Monasteries talk about dreams, he heard them in their melting pot language, and reflected the moment writing for first time in history in Castilian, making annotations in Basque, dreams inside a fearful architecture, Castilian literally is a building language.

The Rose of Winds of languages in this part of Spain, because Spain is full of prats and many other parts, then was a voragine of anxiety, what happened in the others? Wind, wind, now Giants are not windmills like in El Quijote, dryer areas after the paranoia do not fight more against us reflecting our acts, now we begin see nature nature reflect in our mirror eyes like a splendor of beauty. Let´s go discover, we have made a travesy round the world for arrive initial point, that is our revolution. (Tengo la sangre de fuego porque la passion me arde por ver la belleza completa, pero la Pasión con mayúsculas que me llama es otra, es otra llama, unidas).

Coming back to Australia it is not difficult for a Spaniard understand their dessert. Maybe second housing arrives once Molotov ingredient has mix with others in the cocktail, maybe avoiding new Manchas. See the European experience with the Utopias both in America and with the Industrial Revolution, the Ideal Societies, and believe in all them you will find imperfection, human being. Respect part of the first read if you want Historia Secreta y Pública de Amrérica----------------; respect part of the second I remember the introduction of architect Michel Ragon telling something like sociology in cities is the idea of one person respect them, but not some place pleasant for live, ----------

And I recognised I fell in Ronda like landscaper into the Rameses Syndrome, trying in the last 9 days before I gave the Llley Project to the Ronda new urbanism plan (PGOU), of propose ideas for all significant buildings of the city once I approached more or less to the net study city. I was stressed by the question of water, I collected some ideas in the six first days without practically read all the city historical books I got, I sleep few, and I really did not knew very well was I wrote, but I perceived I was proposing too much things to the Rondeñ@s. A city is lived by people and like ex-political scientist I can think about the polis many things but the dreams of the reason creates monsters. (Ah, the Rameses Syndrome deals with a builder – the other was architect – than went pharaon very young and wanted be god at non standard Egyptian rhythm------, and had a primogenitor for continue his Brown Line, then other people leaved the country while were constructing new cities for him after his son died, and his father died too persecuting them, so he employed the rest of his life destroying like others pharaons part of the building works of non standard pharaons for appropriate the firm, and built a lof of through all the country talking about his descendants, the first dolphing it, and not only because it was practically a new Dinasty or because more or less he was ok in wars following his version, but because the legitimacy of previous building works was in doubt, and he arrived till the point of build a collective thomb for their descendants, the KV5, something without precedents too, and maybe he hidden his primogenitor too there, following the ancient Egyptian tradition of hide in thombs unconfessable secrets, so this builder try mask through buildings all. Sometimes I read in this forum than there isa difference between architects and builders, in the strict case of buildings now in Spain there is not such difference, you can not build without sign like architect, other thing is who pays.

Coming back to dry areas once located ideal agro placements you can produce helped with renewable energies too, in Almería some companies are offering gettheeenergy for crops from solar carpets coloured, clorored not, colour red (www.flexcell.com , www.filmsolar.es ------- and it is possible combine this with albercas or partial biological swimming pools, rural tourism places---- for create microclimate, helping new seeds acclimate helping nature find own resistance (in Spain there was 70 types of wheat seeds adapted to microclimate, and now are reduced mainly to four for commercial reasons, it looks the International Seeds Bank of Svardbald------ each time is more important, Irak and Afganistan—lost their own natural seed due the war and they had not reserves in this bank, but experience looking for things showed me than in a little garden, even in mini oasis, in the middle of the rocks, inside a cementery, inside a mosque, down a bridge or a risk river, these seeds are not lost. One thing is theory and other practise, more theories I know less practise I understand.

www.sunways.de combined in Almería renewables with crops (solar installation in an orange exploitation (Almendricos foto---------------), Jumbosolar, a system of www.grammer-solar.es for get heat and cold air directly from sun is employed in a chitken factory fro reduce heat (imagine natural measures and impact on helping stop extensions of animal diseases), Sofos Solar and Nufri agri-food group installed solar hybrid generators not avoiding but using excess of heat on photovoltaic cells for get hot water (Photovoltaic Trigen Solar Irbid termico fotovoltiaco www.nufri.com www.sofos.es www.trigensolar.com)... Initially you can use Fordone techniques for facilitate a big number of non modified plants grow and let nature operate, tipycal delicatessen are not going to appear immediately, but Arabs in Spain quickly saw which places produced what, and some products were exported from Málaga even to China through the Silk Road, so the production is going to be increasingly better in quality, and even I have more confiance in create microclimates inside oasis with other materials different to plastic crops, but these crops could be without chemicals even basic soil producers, opening them in Molotov season to insects, proportioning just water, shadow and energy, I mean these crops could be employed just for increase soil and strength seeds to environment.

Once in Ronda I talked with a farmer than avoid a plague letting plague operate, without chemicals, and the olives were ok, the other farmers did not wanted believed them, sure many farmers have many little trucos—than science after discover or explain (farming first,, acreusa-----------). The two first sections of each part of the three chapters of Llley Project have been written and painted thinking in some illiteracy old people of the Serranía, and the core of scientific literature is in the bibliography, not all the titles are recognised…(Universidad Rural--------).

Transportable agriculture? Science Barge, in Hudson river-- National Geographic---- is an hidroponic ship farm with neutral carbon emissions without energy transportation cost, so when storms proportion water to Australia in big quantities new watercourses will be able for navigation, and this could include production in flexible dams or temporal dams, so the dream of farm producers of arrive without intermediary, more closer to real economy, will be easier selling in local areas like cittaslow cities does (www.cittaslow.net ) in popular markets, so organic agriculture can be fomentada at lowest prices, and fair trade at big scale can be more rational too in term of costs, may be thanks to the help of part of Greek fleet, fomentada with the Beluga system------

Or not? The commerce is focused more in the 10%, or in the rest? Because the rest is more tunned, crafted, tailored to closer customer. While I am writing new ideas are coming, now just I am showing what I thought for open dialogue. If sustainability is a matter of detail (la sostenibilidad es una cuestión de detalle), then where is the core of the economy? Globalization is focused on standardization-concentrated process together with concentrated logistic because infrastructures advances slow in small populated areas in general terms.

Then, where can you reduce prices? Fomentando local and regional economies, proteccionism, selecting with a Mendeleieff table which commodity, is in put or out put? IS in put International Standardised commodities? Is in put eco-designed goods, eco-transported goods, etc? Is included into consumer freedom nature for future generations? People votes with the pocket? Yes? And if you have a hand and the pocket empty? And if you have your hand hard working and the pocket never is full? Which vote is more effective in democracy? Selecting first many people believes this is the way for get benefit from Brown Line, a martillo, storm line, liberty have many ways all legitimated, and frequently mixed and confused, suicide economy. Mendeleieff table can be useful like approach but useless for human being, our creativity is always higher than our reason sorry our oppression. And in the other hand we live in society so our acts have consequences. This is the economical Galileo pendulum I mentioned in last reply, the nature of economy is be natural. Consumer hates—be responsible. Why? But finally reactions through History. Great!

Coming back to potential Australian market which include houses possibilities, which balance of flows is better used, or more aproppiated in food? Productivity, organicity or fashion? Maybe organicitying productivity via fashion? Fashioning organic productivity? Productiviting a fashion of organics? It is all the same? There are more ingredients in this cocktail useful for an architect or a city planner? Are you a dreamer? Which is your dream?

Which can be next TNT logistic explosion, a matter of details at big scale with low cost Molotov system together with some concentrated standardised goods? What is going to proportion Vobis? IS Lend Lease a International Standardised mall factory or there are meeting points with the plaza and other urban elements, will Lend a part for Leasing? Is leasing a solution? Are Australians voters or pockets consumers? Because Lend Lease can not decide it, malls do not vote. Are urban spaces susceptible or be used and reused with different objectives through time? Is astonishing see how in a potential expansion of society nothing is absolutely defined, imagine the rest of world dry or dryer areas? Somebody told human thinking was over? Is the dessert a think tank for dreamers? Who wants live in a dessert? Humanity generally refuses them, then why are we creating them? For dream? IS it necessary arrive to this point, this is our medicine?

Talking about home locations once the weather is wet maybe the best is going on holidays (sorry for the Spanish deformation). What do you need for build a house? First capacity? www.energytours.dk (or virtually digingfeeling www.dansign.com) in the territory where are definitively more or less located Molotov system units, we could call them now Species units, something decreased. Which are your favourites? Sweet or salads? Or picants? OR Ok Render it.

Who is going to be the first in the city? Who is the pioneer? IN Bam the architect designed the city in one piece, International Natural standard projection system.

Rsii, commodity or craft here too? The difference is just the 1%? I overview quickly the two books you told me, good selection! They represents two styles, “refabricating architecture” is more related with commodities I think, operative proceedings, the 10%, and ---- is more related with the 1% putting in doubt many obvious matters of architecture. So with the 1% you advance for get things with the 10%. But the dreamer of an architect and an engineer together is not an half, just the 11%. Where is the rest of the city, the village or the suburbia? I need more books. Iread Sabine and --------- but I need more books----Shackelton Anctartica left one on ice together with a gold clock and did not arrive to objective in this life…

Meanwhile we can continue rendering. Rendering a new storm of common creativity with the rest of citizens, villagers or suburbians? Which program are we going to use? Voices, votes, pockets, etc.

Then What I am going to expose now for finish is just techniques based in good practices, disposable if precised.

Or we precise know good practices for help us render cities? After heard the COAM exposition about idonea Instituto de Energía Solar Estefanía Caamaño COAM tables places systems—people investing like a pension funds CTE (Código Técnico de la Edificación)—edificio Alexandra-- Abac Engyneers Acciona Solar
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and if we begin by energy and after comes the house efficiency design? Decatlon Solar techo movil UPMAdrid----mobile houses? Solarbees Communication System? Then the house is not a mchine like Le Corbusier thought about, but a battery. Potential. Can a house be a energy core susceptible of mute all personalities desired? An e - intelligent consume product? Decorator Australian landscaper prize---showed what was possible do with----------

-—construction and posterior energy systems I left the pavilion for see more stands of Genera. When I came back the act was finishing. Then I asked, which house produces energy for others only by own design? Silence. Then a lady incorporated to tribune and told it is very difficult get it, and commented an interesting approach of a building of Acciona Solar. Solarsiedlung perspective did not arrived to houses. Hydrogen-solar houses, energy walls, bomb houses, living walls, plagues houses, cost and opportunity, desirable and awful?

Are Chinese thinking in use present CO2 emissions in agriculture, it is possible pack this emissions? TNT logistic explosion in Greek language? Substituting future carbon central Chinese will fabricate better renewable cells? You need clean air for produce CD, i.e see locations of producers. Cogeneration is an opportunity? Clean chimneys too (Bionictile ----Ceracasa inside and Unisolar outside i.e., eliminating dioxins inside modifying even chimney temperature from outside, doing chimneys more and more complex and landscaped www.sfxskyclear.com ---------), because is not necessary go to Australia for change landscape, landscape is a brain stormig itself, storemig, storemir, stormmir-----flexible constructions for Molotov winds in present urban areas ----ruso italiano-----

If MacKinsey & Company says energy in houses is bigger than in transport, and transport is mainly used by cars with one person, who is spending energy in houses?
(National geographic June 2009 buildings, and not cars, produced more CO2 in USA, so there are more machines in houses than in roads (General movement and standardised architecture), new houses are 45% bigger than 30 years ago, there are more people in houses?, or less people with more machines? Or less people with more space?


Concrete ships for storage and transport energy with Molotov winds------------?
Factory ships for distribute additional energy for transform products in any land season---------------------?

for more efficients consume products Austin electrical company substituted 730 MW, CEoRoger Duncan in China is the same for urban areas Antional geographic june 2009

www.ajusa.es Proyectos Don Qhyxote, Ciudad del Hidrógeno, unique industrial area in Europe with 100% energycoming form renewables

Unisolar in favelas, the green revolution form the roof? What about derrumbamiento when it rains? -----barcelona dinamarca -------in Setenil de las Bodegas they pack stones at 10% and design at 1%, so it is possible do them flexibles, mobiles, creating rain highways for let water pass, and in agriculture lands too, or in open air mines when the different levels are full of trees for landscaping, I saw in Orozko (Bizkaia) a mine in front of the highway with pines planted in the abandoned levels, so cascades could be designed too for avoid problems if some tree has many water pression.

Old and new, tradition and modernity, identity and future identity
Ciudades

Dream of all architect—Michel Ragon—contemporary architecture---cite dárquitecture—paris alantours plan-social utopia --sociology city idea of a erson could be a pesadilla—Munich way—do alcantarillado, basic services efficiency , codes techniques, codes of Australia Migel Ruano----do it transportable if you want with SPW criteria----the dream of a engineer—but let people dream too—new Madrid quarter with some social promotion are full of colours and first neighbours does is change them, living like in a manicomy --search of common beauty together---new, only new, traditional and new—soportar liberty do yourself implies technorati dreams own production, computer do your self second chanllenge IAAC—many dreams---avoid try imitate rich consume dreamers, be observed---rigidez traditional architecture---dream of traditionals—the of the new by the new—the dream of technologist---which is the common dream?—opening a debate------

A)---masdar,(moderno)

B)standardised www.parabel-solar.de

remake building---Ministerio de Desarrollo Regional y Cuestiones Medioambientales de Baviera ASI OPAK 1993—2003 www.schottsolar.com

iron + cristal Solar Decathlon, a prize in aesthetics—moving houses (Black and White House info@solardecathlon.upm.es------ )


www.martifersolar.com rascacielos con techo solar 250 metros Torre de Cristal
we came back to the Cristal Palace of 1850? Program for change at 10%, messages city code I love NY www.schottsolar.com

mix of crystal and green ecourbanism------------esthaetic dresde IFA---inbuilding transportable areas—emotional architectural blog--hidroponic

www.mig-mbh.de grafixx pollution----
conveyor belt Schultz www.9bmas.com rockodromo movil techniques Robertson i.e. italiano, ruso www.insi-- abuse alert - so only some structural parts are needed to be removed for be substituted, getting inspirations i.e. form nature www.zipblocks.com------

ghery moving building inside deutsches---djswan be looked inside too—outisde sculpture—inside sculpture moving—structure removal—building adaptation can be an art (the 1%) in cities while adapt to Molotov winds—cars exhibitions illuminating th process each morning and afternoon---- coming back to Eiffel farola?
www.sunenergy.com –aplicado a fachada rascacielos-pc—messages via solar ---colours fachade-- www.glassolar.es------arup holandes edificios luminicos
www.glassolar.es concrete+vidrio solar----substitution downtowns…cristal –panels solars---night luminic atmosphere—design city code---robertson techniques forum---

otro integracion arquitectonica suntech power santec—Light Thru www.apolosolar.com


C) freiburg(tradicional +moderno) www.schottsolar.com vidrio ASI
Chalet toscazo www.parabel-solar.de rojizo y oscuro
Chalet mediterraneo www.grammer-solar.es blanco azul y oscuro

Petra inventum---san cugat absorbedor solar de color
www.ariema.com
Schott paneles solares personalizados—logos –information-logistic- forcade
Tailored PHOTOfoltaic panels-Indarsun, with Megawatt line production—tunning (1%)-----
Vidursolar in hotel Aguas de Ibiza, false photovoltaic panels for respet homogenity of fachada, imitating cells by serigraphie
www.wwf.org
WWF—Parans Solar Lightning, Rehact
WWF—“indian companies with solutions that world needs. Sustainability as a driver for innovation and profit”

Basix—Grameen Bank
Cosmos Ignite Innovations-LED lamps to 1600 millions people
ITC Limited sustainability ecological impact emision sequestration
L&T health education infrastructures and conservancy
Tat Consultancy Services—mKRISHI illiteracy framers through handy, meteo sensor, GPS, multimedia images------it remembers me some initiatives transition to literacy through working-


Real state and renewables energies sector, what they does?

I employed two dyas in see Genera, with aprox. 200 exhibitors more, and two hours in see SIMA, with only one pavilion this year. Information in Genera about architecture? Colateral . Information in SIMA about renewables, or even energy efficiency? Marginal. Logically the renewable burble is not perceived like solution ford the collapsed real state initiatives, and the renewable sector in realstate do not see with renewabled eyes aesthetic in promotions.

Big fortunes have been in Madrid since the 50´s thanks to massive real estate initiatives, but at SIMA there was a carpet formed by light map with digital photos of the Community (Region) of Madrid and the lynx path I proposed in other reply soon will be impossible to manage in the closer areas I thought, massive ecological real state promotions and others are going to be launched by Arpegio,------,masterincollective housing a regional administrative tool. May be the promoters www.asprima.es could consider other alternatives for the growing dryer area than the city represents, with cercanás --- trains running 200 kilometres without see ecological corridors. There is a simultaneous plan for rehabilitation than includes by law solar energy, a better way for add value to houses…(Plan Rehabilita www.madrid.org ), there is technology for make thermographies www.alavaingenieros.com together with rendering urban landscapes---------and include sustainable ideas and furniture in decoration of pilot homes, helping interior professionals to expand new habits (www.espacio-forma.com ), landscaping consume products inside homes too www.mirrormedia.com (publicity in Country Life International Review, Summer 2009---)

An Hungarian representative told me Spanish knows the paths for the next 25 years in real state there, but note than Hungary phamflet talks about “Hungary – the natural regional logistics centre” but Spain is not a plateau in the middle of Europe without coasts or mountains, then the spider web world urban model could have worst effects there than is Spain. Then is better eat crudo just the gulatsch---, Spain offers selected recipes for real state looking the good practices menu, choose a pleasant combination of tastes.

Some massive promotions have the good skill of landscape more or less with traditional architecture so in the distance they even look traditional villages (“Investing in Memories”, cover photograph of El Gouna, Egypt, www.orascomrealstate.com ), and others even do not install in the island forming a palafitta village so in case of danger respect the National Park can be moved (Palms Islands, Boca del Toro, Panamá, info@opi-panama.org , the project includes the valuable action of minimise residents in an area because ownerships can let for rent the houses to an luxurious hotel chain for manage it, thinking specially in just married people, avoiding the impersonal massification of this sector in other Caribbean areas)

Media like www.cnbc.com can have an extraordinary influence in order to promote sustainability in their contents, organisations like www.worldproperties.com and www.realtors.org are focusing each time more in create green sections in their webs for their customers, and others like www.propertyawards.net thinks around the possibility of include sustainability criteria more detailed inside their tables of punctuation.

Please note than I am goingto comment initiatives observed in a Spanish event, so the representation is partially deformed, anyway the construction sector is important at international level too, like tourism, telecommunication and fashion. Some economists says China and India are going to back to their previous % of global GNP of agriculture economy via industry, I do not remember if is a 40% of total; I think this is incorrect, first because the world population % are changing, second because these analysis usually do not study the environmental impact of the industrialization (I believe if these countries turn a little bit the priorities in terms of sustainability they are going to approach faster to incomes per capita to developed countries, which is the final real objective, not the accumulated data of GNP itself), without include in this point the avoidable catastrophic ideas apuntadas---), third because the relative developed of a precise industry do not depends only of the percentage of population but depends of other factors too, and four good practises are expanded worldwide and what is good for one place is not for other even if this have consequences in GDP, I mean one place can need a cheapest solution for the same problem and could look than the real local richness is lower when really is more efficient) news I see, not better, first or unique, I do not state of the art I just look tendencies with information I get on the road.

Just mention than in all process described render houses projects is an alternative (i.e. www.smartdraw.com etc, do scale is other i.e. www.elfinpresentations.com ---- and exhibit scale houses is other i.e. www.mkt-ag.de and even somebody could think in develop Real State Ferias designed like cities in which all this forms could be appreciated, please, please, developing a transport system for facilitate comfortable movements of people and relax non paying areas for forget sometimes the Feria. ( ecourbanismo Australia¿?---

All colours of Benetton, Venice is a party not only in Carnival, initiative is bigger than I expected, the city is not sinking and not only because I ignored the MOSE project is going on, but because many interesting initiatives both in science and arts are being explored.
www.truly-venice.com
www.immaginelenticolari.com
traje de espejos cuac
I´m going to take a ticket for a transoceanic gondola, a Marco Polo barca----, movement, pon, pon, pon, this boat is always moving, Venice is a gondola,

Venice moving, moving all the time, moving like a pendulum, like the pendulum that Galileo showed from –tower, like the Pisa tower, to the north, ---, to the south--- San Marco domino----….. Looking the Maritime Museum of Bilbao-portuguese bacalao----- successive docks have modified the base of the ría, getting or loosing fondos---- Turning constantly some parts of MOSE Project without Acqua Alta you can get the same effect for get appropriate fondos, so you help workers deali9ng with stakes. Stakes covered i.e. of terracote-----, cheap murano version,--- sistrom---after all spam developed Tetris video game, no building works under the sea, just desplegar pieces with a artificial coral

The MOSE project together with mobile marble concrete docks develop this effect.

www.turismodeirlanda.com Giants causeway bilbaomuseomaritimo—martinconstrucciones----

Domino effect, buildingd supported some times in church, more heavy, see that, demag platform acojonanti------codigo mit ordenador----maximum transport with minimum traffic with city modrn surrounding---ship factory----rubbish Adriatic Italian side---- Turner pictures----more colours than black and green? Impossible!...what said Turner about his work? I paint just…
Usar de nuevo el péndulo de Galileo para calibrar la estabilidad de la elevación de la ciudad entera, la gota de agua del contador de matemáticas puede ser e- xpresada en cualquier curva, el agua es una matriz de fractales en continuo equilibrio.

Maritime sistrom—tetris
In put and out put Mendeleieff –but dremas made reality are always bigger than a table, is not possible put all our creativity codified by ourselves, where is the liberty? Commodity or craft? The first book is industry in architecture, the 10%, not 11%. Two books----the other book is about other the other 90%? No, Sabine finished his monumental book with a doubt, --Aalto did not developed the surroundings….Shalckleton did not arrived to---, he left two things over the ice---then commodity or craft is only a part of the answer, the planteamiento is not an half, … this is my favourite dream, find a location and paint details, big pictures are nice but ---sustainability is a matter of detail (la sostenibilidad es una cuestion de detalle, you know, ad always oneself prefers own country, where the biggest part pf family and friends usually are,…5 years for prepare the mix and then …I am going to add a little bit of honey, did you knew than…? The world is full of delicatessen for everybody, hay de sobra,

Syndrome Rameses, you know this literary figure than became pharaon ---

Atmospheres, moments, encounters, extreme landscpaing….this is standard life. Yeah!, nothing better than dream awake, and share it, participate!, that´s life!

Dealing with dreams, Turner painted nice scenes there i.e. “Venetian Scene” (1840-45), “Venetian Festival” (1845), life always continues even in vaporous times before awake again. I knew Venice was partially built over stakes because when I was leaving the exhibition-------- I saw in a corner panel something explaining this. But not all we see is all than exists. Talking now again about complexity (potential spatial Australian dessert cities is an introduction – voluntary intimacy immersion intromission inmission of oneself – about it), Turner discovers me what I see and touch even if I am not able to imagine it, it has not relation with ancient Greek philossopers third wave, those dealing with ethic or appearances showing other worlds but always inside a strict logic/o.

I am not talking about spirituality now or physical parallel universes. In his picture “The Fighting “Temperate” turged to his Last Be(a)rth to be broken up” you can see in the right side of the picture a terrestrial heaven than do not exist, and even if you compare the cover and the picture in page 85 of the Spanish version of this book -------------------------, you will appreciate two terrestrial heavens.

Of course you can think all is a question of childs, his critic, and one of his discovers, John Ruskin, said respect his technique: “Todo el efecto de la pintura descansa, en cuanto a la técnica, en nuestra capacidad de recuperar ese sentido que podríamos llamar “la inocencia de los ojos”, ese modo de ver infantil que percibe las mancha(s) coloreadas como tales, sin saber lo que significan, como le parecería a un ciego al que repentinamente le fuera devuelta la vista”

But Turner answered: ”no lo pinté para que fuera entendido sino para mostrar cómo luce semejante espectáculo”

And like commented Michael Bockemühl ---- “Esa fuerza que altera la percepción visual, sin embargo, sigue haciendo de la pintura de Turner un enigma”. GAT astonished me is how Turner opens in front of me colours than I do not see. And this is something different respect complexity I talked about with Djswan because then I was referring more to how in theoretical physics the idea of parallel universes made relative this one we perceive because maybe we are perceiving different physical rules only partially logic understood, so the Greek logos was crack because is entirely logic even when deals with the third wave. Some works of land art ---------------dealing with astronomy helped me begin see the universe with other perspectives.

But what I talk about Turner is different, the colours he used are easy to understand, are not logic or half logic, I count touch them, but open my view to new perspectives. Can be a universe made for us better than natural? We work better than nature? Like landscaper the unique landscape I am never tired of see is nature. Human action on landscape sometimes gives me peace, other disturbs me, but I recognised is not very common today see a nice integration between both, and when I see them human creativity is stopped in various fields. It is more easy for me be fascinated by isolated designs, by the forms itself, so I often appreciate more human design work without environment. And this is for me the challenge, even in a changing municipality or valley, or county, which is the dimension I prefer manage like landscaper for develop routine,a concept than I do not know and can brings to me to art, routine like an art.

I do not think I can work better than nature but I think I can work nature changing partially it and surprising me at the same time, and I think the result is going to be better than original, and of course I am not talking of a mere equation of transform energy and mass via humanity. But for work with nature we must know it, there is a rare honey in the Serranía than practically nobody knows, is produced when a huge rain of 100 ml arrives in September-October, then a cardo—proliferates and the honey has a clear colour, not like the traditional dark wood honey. And many people of Ronda refuses it thinking is false, and is a honey, coming from Los Alcornocales, not only healthy but probably almost unique. Thinking in ustainability like a matter of detail you perceive many many economical opportunities, I exposed some initial paths in Llley Project, so talk of crisis makes me think about how much standardised respect nature we are.


Before enter in this forum I though travel to Costa Rica and live there because is the human society at nation level more pacific of all, Spaniards undervalued the territory because the El Dorado was not there, so the few people went there for do the same than in Spain, work hard but practically without real presence of nobles, so the symbol of the country is the carreta, maybe I am simple because Presidents are elected between few circles, anyway independence arrived with a rider message so I thought in an hypothetic unstable climate change crisis (I though again bad I am sorry), people finally will reaction in the middle of hysteria just to good practices in a place where people is not only united, but pacifically united, and then stupid attitudes would disappear. Now I think I was wrong, although I think the solution to climate change in 5 years was argued supposing a massive dialog and participation, not just few millions of persons. But I am optimist now, people heard, independently if agree or disagree.

Coming back Turner vision of Venice, is ethereal, possibilities than exists, waiting for be discovered…

Ignition

Countdown: 1

Full potence VVVVVVVVVVVRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM and even more (extreme landscaping?)

I forget in last reply Palestinians, maybe Turquey could receive them together with other European countries (part of Turquey is European continent), would be wonderful if the vast area of Ararat mountains was declared Patrimony of Humanity, instead of be military areas for avoid repeat the past and the present, genocides are never the future of humanity. Un abrazo a Guinea Ecuatorial y a los demás lugares que no he mencionado donde España en vez de poner el pie metió la pata al ir como conquistadores (no represento a nadie, hablo por mí mismo), and thanks to myarchn---for promote expanding dialogue each time was near colapse here, giving other version of Side West Story.

Turner painted other thing,
“The Morning alter the Deluge – Light and colour (Goethe´s Theory) – Moses writing the Book of Genesis”, in which a vaporous world is borning after the Bloom, but in this case what was new was mainly big parts of the landscape, so there was something old and something new, the colours appeared not only in a picture, extreme landscaping is different even if is directly vertical landscaping without us, and even if Turner tried represent in the same way. Is different by the protagonist, is different by the part of reality we can more or less understand in both cases, so Turner here did not dreamed, just extrapolated his daily spectacle to other dimension applying the same painting technique for deal with what is far away from standard visual form, and standard here do not means real, or unique reality.

I tried approach this vision in Llley Project when proposed an animal observatory with a previous human encounter, so the building, camouflaged access included, has the aspect of a sea. A snorkel man told me under water is like if you are in a mirror room, everything can appear in any moment, an algae, a shark, but in this case the building is for humans looking nature, so the first surprise is want enter in a building where you do not know if there are more people, and who they are, so for me in the game perspective of Escher I inspired about what is true and false, for enter you/me we need the standard, normal vision of the other, confiance is the key.

I am still waiting see and experience buildings like first Turner picture I commented, see and touch more than I see, because I perceived each time more buildings, and not only buildings but all, related with second Turner picture I commented, I mean touch the architectural objects, lines and perspectives and feel in silence how the entire nature is gritando waiting for me, for us, for flourish. What is possible and what not in this life inside all standard parameters you and me are we able to dream?

There are two types of countdowns, one for discovers and other for conquerors, our freedom is irrenunciable and never the life is over, reality is better than fiction. Playing in discovers division the countdown is useless because players have all the time of the world, and playing in conquerors division the countdown is useless because always players are late, but only when I am discover I know it.

Nice to meet everybody, has been a discovery for me, for me the time in this forum has finished, when a door closes other opens, see you on the road.

Good question, Ronchamp.

Countdown: 0

[erjavi]

I´m sorry, this text goes between the two last replies

Thanks again

Javier

I did not was interested in Genera about biomass machines because my interest was in natural recycling for promote micro organism, probably I was mistaken not including references, in this web appeared many times www.pmrenergy.com and others. My interest was uniquely in a mobile unit, www.aldavia.com , and I think this is more aproppiated, because even be employed for promote selectively storm places via the presence of vegetation maybe promoting concentration of clouds. But should be interesting too dispose of fix big units spread through territory for eventually stop the tsunami, always in theory, together with the action of tornados F-10 or less and spontaneous fires. And in this sense some damaged vegetation could be transported to other places i.e. Vobis, palets, Australian logistic companies, Schultzconveyor, Tente the word in motion, and the other could be profited (stora enso package, clean bags, etc, giving priority to Japanese forest management, more focused in wildlife corridors, respect Scandinavian, only relatively more stimulated to exploitation, the first model is more potent if severe climate changes arrives, the flexibility of the environment is bigger).

I got the Israeli web referred while looking my files for finish this mail. Respect other systems commented, this sounds more “industrial”, and while let water flows can acts too like potential barrier getting diminish too wave force, if you direct floating concrete marble docks to it, at bigger scale, so you can direct and diminish even big waves and diminish storms and even tsunamis effects getting part of their energy while protecting the rest of coast in beaches and bays areas---

The grass operation can be promoted in parallel in areas more hard of colonise immediately massively by herbivorous, so forests could appear easily, and in any case can be of interest dispose of forest a long the coast for stops strong winds, like happens with tropical jungle, worldwide. And probably is less problematic develop Molotv system in the surroundings of Northern Australian jungles. Potent areas like this or Málaga – Cádiz sierras are pumping life areas, soon young animals explores neighbourhood areas, so extension of jungle could be supported for far away support of kangaroo-lambs areas, trying equilibrate both systems while expands.

Coming back to visible signals depending weather, water signals, flow animal over red intelligent roads, pass of mobile biomass units, transport of Molotov system, mobile workers locations, etc, which is the code for employ in flow management, visual, digital, aerial electromagnetic, changing colours, changing barriers, changing odours, sounds, selective illumination, stimulate different heat surfaces temperatures in roads for promote or stop flows? It is signalling an art too? All must be art? A landscape full of art is boring, collapse the view? Can art be discreet? Must be camouflaged for get it? Must be artificial for get it? And what about spontaneity, what about what we call natural?

Some USA people say when travels to Europe than it looks a decorado, an ancient one. Some Europeans thinks the same when they travel to USA, it looks a new one. Many years ago I visited Prague, called the Pearl of the East. And in some moments my impression was near to Venice, but always there was somebody in the street, and cars and other XX century elements did not let to me experience completely such atmosphere. The city was living an initial massive building work, just for restore the buildings, so it was possible appreciate the beauty of the town, not big areas destroyed for build over or big spaces occulted to sight. The atmosphere was great, people was opening to new realities, in some aspects it remembered me my first youth (I am in the second now) so this lovely feeling of have the horizon full of possibilities was on the air.

I heard than many young USA business man arrived to the city like challenge, an opportunity for initiatives. Years later, one of my sister came back with her husband for transmit him this sensation. The city was successfully restored, and the hotel occupation is between the biggest of the world, and the city lives not only from tourism because is the capital of an active country…but streets were full of publicity, impossible transmit visually the feeling of authenticity all the family experience. Something was wrong in the mix of decorados? What happened? Where are the limits of genuine right for say inside the city I/we are here? It is necessary think big for solve this dilemma walter towers? Think big means other possibilities? Or mix them? I think in the case of Australians is decision of them. What is wonderful in this world too is see the differences between people for appreciate human richness of expressions.