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The exchange of ideas in a free, liberal way ?

Postby usarender » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:52 pm

It would be interesting to see here an open discussion on the future of architecture, such as new architectural technologies and the projects of the future. Those who have new architectural vision, new ways of designing buildings, structures and the cities of the future could thus exchange ideas in a liberal, free way without a preoccupation with community rejection.

Is this possible in this community ?

We have such a vision, and would like to see the day when architects can truly do this in an open, participative, community driven way. Anyone here up to the challenge ?


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Welcome to the journey

Postby usarender » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:53 pm

We are a group of architects and global innovators who are developing the most technologically advanced, integrated and global technology integration system ever.

We have brought a billion new technologies, scientific developments, inventions into a new project called Liquid Universe.

We are integrating into this joint development effort the most advanced scientists, inventors, researchers, technology experts, architects, engineers, and a multitude global experts in robotics, modeling, advanced software applications, telecommunications, network systems and artificial intelligence.

This project can be seen at -->>

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In this environment, the real world and the virtual world will exist in a new level of interaction and this is going to bring about the greatest revolution in technology, architecture, science, way of conducting business and interacting online.

We are at the dawn of a revolution in the making !

This is an astronomical opportunity to be a part of the movers and shakers who are making history.

"You don't imagine the power of dreams and imagination.

Our words carry magic and can transform the future.

Our thoughts, ideas, aspirations and inventions re-shape reality around us and transport us into an unimaginable future of advanced human interaction and endless possibilities of technological developments."

Before our eyes is emerging of a new generation of scientists, visionaries, world collaboration, global intelligence, freedom of creation and scientific exploration !

Welcome to the journey !
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Re: Welcome to the journey

Postby Riversong » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:48 pm

usarender wrote:We are integrating into this joint development effort the most advanced... artificial intelligence.

Until we learn to use our native (i.e. real) intelligence, we will continue to move faster and faster in the wrong direction (i.e. the same direction that has brought us to the brink of global cataclism).

What the world needs to restore some semblence of sustainability, is human-scale technologies, human-paced life-styles, and nature-based patterns of relationship.

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not "artificial intelligence" but the future of ar

Postby usarender » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:09 pm

The text does not read solely "artificial intelligence ". What comes before this? The people who are there to do the thinking ! We are true intelligence. Machines can only replicate what we program them to do.

The most troubling concern is whether architects can truly come to a consensus on what is the "human scale" when it comes to planetary sustainability. The planet has not existed on the "human scale" at any time, when we come to think of it. Man is ever in need of the tension of contradiction, and this can be seen in architecture in the form of "complexity and contradiction".

These forums are no exception, and when one wishes to discuss the future, the context immediately veers to a negative reductionist verbiage of discussion on the true nature of the human scale versus the dehumanizing force of technology, as some would so imply. If we could resolve the global problems based on the natural application of human form then we as architects are missing the boat.

Or should we do as some, go hide in the mountains to escape the "polluting effect of technology and the modern world ?"

To do this would imply in essence that technology is evil, undesirable and de-humanizing. If this is the case, why don't we all revert back to the stone age and seek more "natural" humanizing relationships ?

Why is there a need then for these forums, if here we are guilty of the same technological "mischiefs" as we propose to suggest.
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Re: not "artificial intelligence" but the future o

Postby Riversong » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:59 pm

usarender wrote:The text does not read "artificial intelligence ". We are true intelligence.

My post began with a quote from yours. It clearly spoke of "artificial intelligence".

when one wishes to discuss the future, the context immediately veers to a negative reductionist verbiage

See your quotes below as examples of "negative reductionist verbiage".

Or should we do as some, go hide in the mountains to escape the "polluting effect of technology and the modern world ?"


why don't we all revert back to the stone age and seek more "natural" humanizing relationships ?


You asked for an "open discussion" and a "liberal, free exchange of ideas", but apparently you meant only those that supported your own. The weakness of one's ideas can be measured by the degree one turns defensive and retaliatory and "reductionist and negative" when those ideas are in any way challenged.
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"Forrest Preserving Terrorists at Work Again

Postby usarender » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:17 pm

There we have it again. Those who wish to de-stabilize the forum and the discussion.

You forgot to read what came before that.

In your preconceived universal view of what is "politically correct", "environmentally friendly", you did not understand the nature of the implicit intent of humor in my sentences.

Again, the "green forces" of booby trapping, hi-jacking of thought, and undermining of "forest preservation terrorists at work".

Do you suppose that if Frank Lloyd Wright were a carpenter, he would thus be "wood butchering" anti-environmentalist ? This is ludicrous. Your thinking simply does not make sense. And this is not the only forum where you have tried to hijack the subject. Take your posts on the issue "was F.L.W. a carpenter. What does more "sustainable building and design" have to do with Frank Lloyd Wright ? To the contrary, F.L.W understood how to achieve a perfect balance of form, an architecture that was truly integrated and harmonious with nature.

If you think those who support "human-scale, ecological, and sustainable world" have the answers, then what exactly are the "nature-based patterns of relationship" you so arduously support ?

Can you please define it ?

To assume a little humor is "weakness of one's ideas" is ludicrous. Or to assume a statement that can summarize a "silly way of thinking", expressed in a "silly way of thinking" proves one has a "silly way of thinking" is like taking a mirror and trying to reflect back in the image of another individual what you see in yourself.

There is a need in these forums to engage in intellectual discussions among architects, that is the challenge. So far, we have had a few individuals and self-proclaimed "nature-based" human interaction experience advocates trying to undermine every intelligent topic so far posted on the viability of global cooperation.

Is there any sign of intelligent life on this planet Design Community ?

Give me a break !
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