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Bill Stanley



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Another sneak preview Reply with quoteFind all posts by Bill Stanley

Hi.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Bill Stanley

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Derek



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Derek

Oh YES!

Layer transparency Very Happy

The fourth column in the window looks like layer print control Very Happy

"Dup" button. duplicate layer? Very Happy

...and what's the third column with the red asterisk? Question

It all looks great Bill.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by lavardera

And I wonder what that sort layer list check button does? And the hide invisible - to shorten the list?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by dwm

Bill;

You're having fun teasing us, aren't you? Twisted Evil

Duplicate Layers, that was on my wish list.

Control printability, that one too.

The "Pink" star, hmmmm, I'm stumped, what is it?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by erikmar

I agree - it looks very good (as did the custom object styles screenshots).

I'd guess that the red asterisk is to toggle object snapping by layer.

Hopefully, we'll still be able to select several layers simultaneously and toggle the options for all selected layers at once.

If the 4th column is layer print control, I wonder how that will play out with PC's WYSIWYG paradigm - I can see new users trying to print what they see on the screen, not noticing that a layer has its print indicator set incorrectly.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jasonlocher

is that the snap star I see? hot damn we can turn off snapping to layers AND get transparency control!? I'm beside myself.
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Howard



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Better marketing through dissolution of inertia Reply with quoteFind all posts by Howard

Bill Stanley, are you aware of the Architosh Powercadd formum at:
http://architoshforums.forest.net/forumdisplay.php?f=8

I would hate to see Powercadd become some kind of cult following. A year plus of Powercadd 6 with no mention of it in MacWorld, MacCentral or anything mainstream. Now with PC7 immenent, you have a chance to redeem yourself, and get the word out beyond the existing users. I'll be watching!!
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Bill Stanley



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Bill Stanley

Hi Derek.

...and what's the third column with the red asterisk?
I notice that Mike agreed to put ‘Resolve Dispute’ code in the Debug menu.
The third column almost looks like a snap indicator.

hide invisible - to shorten the list?
Yes.

I'd guess that the red asterisk is to toggle object snapping by layer.
Eric, good guess.

Hopefully, we'll still be able to select several layers simultaneously and toggle the options for all selected layers at once.
Intended to work as you describe.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by David Scott

The Layer Transparency idea is brilliant Bill. I can't wait. At last I'll be able to do mixed room zone shading on my floor plans without having to fiddle about moving layers any more.

David

PS Sorry to be a bit of a nit picker, but there's a couple of greengrocer's apostrophes in the notes.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by JohnMorse

Is it reasonable to assume that the large, red, semi-see-through arrows and their shadows in this Preview are, in fact, drawn in PowerCADD 7?
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ftribel



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by ftribel

-Layer shadow like in photoshop ? (and your drawing, Bill)

-Possibilty to obtain transparencies only in fillings and not on lines, in the same layer (to avoid inflation of layers and get more dynamic drawings) ?

Your gave a hand, I would like to get the whole arm.
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huc



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by huc

ftribel wrote:
-Possibilty to obtain transparencies only in fillings and not on lines, in the same layer (to avoid inflation of layers and get more dynamic drawings) ?


would have to be 'yes' given the screen shot in this posting; pen, layer, and fill opacity are independently adjustable based on the information posted thus far.

applying a layer opacity attribute would logically affect all objects (Pen, Fill, etc.) on that layer. So getting Fill set separate to Pen opacity would require using object level attributes verses layer level attributes.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:25 am    Post subject: Holy Grail Reply with quoteFind all posts by pbacot

Transparency (or whatever you call it) has indeed been at least one of the holy grails of PowerCADD.( Hey--whatever's going on in the latest versions--my ACAD friend can't seem to manage grayscale properly yet!)

This puts the icing on the cake of PowerCADDS graphic treats. Many thanks, Bill and all of ES. Thanks for keeping the faith.

Still, seeing the nice new layers list (a bigger palette requiring more real estate), I can't help but mention my favorite wishlist item--making layer locking accessible at the main window level.

The new features like transparency and the snap by layer will really change how I work. Also it appears you can dim a layer using the opacity control--which I used to use colors for before, eschewing the built-in dimming as too crude. This will be a great help for various overlay drawings.

As too opacity and transparency. It appears that this transparency assumes that there is a white background. "Well there is", you may say. But really for a piece of colored glass to be transparent--it does not necessarily change color at all--it does not get whiter, until an object is viewed through it. It looks like in this case the white paper is a object that will always be seen through the transparent object.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Holy Grail Reply with quoteFind all posts by huc

pbacot wrote:
As too opacity and transparency. It appears that this transparency assumes that there is a white background. "Well there is", you may say. But really for a piece of colored glass to be transparent--it does not necessarily change color at all--it does not get whiter, until an object is viewed through it. It looks like in this case the white paper is a object that will always be seen through the transparent object.


How does opacity indicate there is a white background?

An object that is 100% opaque is solid; just like any old powercadd or powerdraw fill pattern)

An object that is 0% opaque is see through; just like any powercadd object with a NIL fill pattern)

An object with an opacity other than 100% (e.g. 25%) allows us to see through to what underneath that object. So, if the object was a green fill, everything seen through the object would have a green tint. It's no different than how PhotoShop, Painter, Pages or Keynote handle opacity.

For what they're worth, here are some initial thoughts on the attribute and layer opacity sneak peaks offered up by EngSW thus far.
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