[WEC-Coord] A small request
matthews at artifice.com
Tue Nov 13 09:30:12 PST 2007
This particular thread of discussion appears to me to have progressed beyond the point where it may be most fruitful to continue in the email format.
Be that as it may.
However this thread of discussion may go forward, I'm hope all involved might stay in contact with two possible truths:
1) I think we all value both concision and reserve in emails, to preserve our valuable time.
2) I think we all value openness and completeness in communication, with a minimum of filtering internal to the collaborative.
I wonder if we might find such ways to work together that they support both of these principles?
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From: Mary O'Brien <mob at uoregon.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:47:15 -0800
To: Rob Zako <rob at friends.org>, "Larry E. Reed" <LarryReed at jrhweb.com>, Susan Ban <sban at sheltercare.org>
Cc: Kevin Matthews <matthews at artifice.com>, John Huyler <johnhuyler at earthlink.net>, Dennis Donald <dennisdonald at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: A small request
Thanks for you note, but last week I sent an email to the Committee about what we would be covering in our committee meeting and you immediately sent a review of what your committee is doing.
When I sent some information to the Committee on idling vs.building new lanes (which was an item which had been discussed within the Env. Committee as needing some information), Larry immediately sent a note implying that the whole discussion was an example of enviros not taking people into account, not wanting to build roads, etc. Instead it was simply the first piece of modeling/estimation we had on a question about which we had wondered whether there was information/modeling/estimation.
So I was thinking that given that since both you and Larry are on emails that go to our Env. Committee, though you aren't on the Committee, it would be good to send information you wanted to go to our Committee to me and Susan, and we'd either bring it to the Committee printed out, or notify them of some information at a site, or whatever, depending on what it is.
If you are sending materials to the entire Collaborative, or (better yet), a very short note with a URL for the materials, of course that would go to everyone.
But so few people read (or want, and may eventually turn off) zillions of emails, I'm just requesting the system of sending materials to me and Susan...and we will make sure the Committee knows of them one way or the other.
Does that sound ok?
P.S. When I missed the phone call in Utah, Rob, I followed it up with a conversation with Kevin Matthews --- he didn't think it was necessary to re-schedule the three-way call.
At 04:56 PM 11/12/2007, Rob Zako wrote:
> Dear Mary, Larry and Susan (and Kevin, John and Dennis),
> In order to keep the technical committees better coordinated, I sometimes
> send materials to not only the Land Use and Transportation Committee but
> also to the Environment Committee (knowing that I will also get the Mapping
> Subcommittee as well). For example, I believe I sent the materials for the
> upcoming Land Use and Transportation Committee to the Environment Committee
> as well, as the charge to both committees is a bit unclear and I thought it
> would be helpful for others see how the LUT Committee is interpreting our
> charge. I realize that with the attachments, that was a significant amount
> of information and apologize if some people are feeling overwhelmed by
> emails and attachments. (The Work Plan, in three parts, was an especially
> large set of attachments.)
> Would it be better to just send notices of meetings with links of where to
> find materials? Or am I not understanding your concern?
> I do think that the two (or three) technical committees should be
> coordinating more, rather than less, and communication is essential to that
> Mary, before the last full WEC meeting you asked to coordinate the work of
> the Environment, LUT and Mapping Committees, so we scheduled a conference
> call for the chairs of the three technical committees: Environment - Mary,
> LUT - Rob, Mapping - Kevin. But Kevin and I were unable to reach you in Utah
> so that coordination never did occur.
> In any case, I am interesting in figuring out ways to coordinate better,
> more effectively, and more efficiently.
> > From: Mary O'Brien <mob at uoregon.edu>
> > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:33:37 -0800
> > To: <LarryReed at jrhweb.com>, Rob Zako <rob at friends.org>
> > Cc: Susan Ban <sban at sheltercare.org>, Mary O'Brien <mob at uoregon.edu>
> > Subject: A small request
> > Hi, Larry and Rob,
> > When I send an email as co-chair to the WEC-Environment Committee, and you
> > have a response to the email, it would be great if you just responded to
> > and Susan Ban as the other Co-Chair instead of the whole Committee, given
> > that neither of you are on the Env. Committee. I try to keep the number of
> > emails down, and Susan and I would bring the info you send in response to
> > something I (or Susan has sent) to the committee as a whole.
> > Hope that's ok with you. Of course, if you're sending something to the
> > whole WEC that's fine...
> > Thanks!
> > Mary
> > Mary O'Brien
> > P.O. Box 12056
> > Eugene, OR 97440
> > phone: 541/485-6886
> > fax: 541/485-7429
> > Note: Old email address mob at darkwing.uoregon.edu
> > has been changed to mob at uoregon.edu
P.O. Box 12056
Eugene, OR 97440
Note: Old email address mob at darkwing.uoregon.edu
has been changed to mob at uoregon.edu
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