[WEC-Coord] A small request
Mary O'Brien
mob at uoregon.edu
Thu Nov 15 20:34:58 PST 2007
Hi, Pat,
That's fine. I'm happy to have everybody on the Envt Committee get all emails. I was only figuring they might resent getting too many emails.
No problem.
Mary
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:57:12 -0800, Pat_Johnston at blm.gov wrote:
> I would like to weigh and mention that as I understood the structure of the
> WEC committees, the co-convenors were the roles that were assigned.
> Co-convenor conveys a very different level of responsibility than a
> co-chair. My point is that as a member of a committee I would like to see
> everything that is pertinent to my work on the WEC. I appreciate the
> opportunity to review the work of others and think about it. I don't
> believe it is the role of a co-convenor to accept the responsibility to
> review and then distribute all information going to the committees. It
> should just freely be available. If this gets to be too much e-mail, I can
> easily delete it.
>
> Respectfully yours,
> Pat Johnston
>
> I took the time to read through this long e-mail dialog to find the
> following:
>
> Hi, Larry and Rob,
> > >
> > > When I send an email as co-chair to the WEC-Environment Committee, and
> you
> > > have a response to the email, it would be great if you just responded
> to
> > me
> > > and Susan Ban as the other Co-Chair instead of the whole Committee,
> given
> > > that neither of you are on the Env. Committee. I try to keep the number
> of
> > > emails down, and Susan and I would bring the info you send in response
> to
> > > something I (or Susan has sent) to the committee as a whole.
> > >
> > > Hope that's ok with you. Of course, if you're sending something to the
> > > whole WEC that's fine...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Mary
>
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> Kevin Matthews
> <matthews at artific
> e.com> To
> Sent by: wec._env_com at westeugenecollaborativ
> wec_coord at westeug e.org,
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> Re: [WEC-Coord] A small request
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> Dear Friends,
>
> This particular thread of discussion appears to me to have progressed
> beyond the point where it may be most fruitful to continue in the email
> format.
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> Be that as it may.
>
> However this thread of discussion may go forward, I'm hope all involved
> might stay in contact with two possible truths:
>
> 1) I think we all value both concision and reserve in emails, to preserve
> our valuable time.
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> 2) I think we all value openness and completeness in communication, with a
> minimum of filtering internal to the collaborative.
>
> I wonder if we might find such ways to work together that they support both
> of these principles?
>
> all best,
>
> Kevin
>
>
> ----- Begin forwarded message -----
> From: Mary O'Brien <mob at uoregon.edu>
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:47:15 -0800
> To: Rob Zako <rob at friends.org>, "Larry E. Reed" <LarryReed at jrhweb.com>,
> Susan Ban <sban at sheltercare.org>
> Cc: Kevin Matthews <matthews at artifice.com>, John Huyler
> <johnhuyler at earthlink.net>, Dennis Donald <dennisdonald at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: A small request
>
> Hi, Rob,
>
> Thanks for you note, but last week I sent an email to the Committee about
> what we would be covering in our committee meeting and you immediately sent
> a review of what your committee is doing.
>
> When I sent some information to the Committee on idling vs.building new
> lanes (which was an item which had been discussed within the Env. Committee
> as needing some information), Larry immediately sent a note implying that
> the whole discussion was an example of enviros not taking people into
> account, not wanting to build roads, etc. Instead it was simply the first
> piece of modeling/estimation we had on a question about which we had
> wondered whether there was information/modeling/estimation.
>
> So I was thinking that given that since both you and Larry are on emails
> that go to our Env. Committee, though you aren't on the Committee, it would
> be good to send information you wanted to go to our Committee to me and
> Susan, and we'd either bring it to the Committee printed out, or notify
> them of some information at a site, or whatever, depending on what it is.
>
> If you are sending materials to the entire Collaborative, or (better yet),
> a very short note with a URL for the materials, of course that would go to
> everyone.
>
> But so few people read (or want, and may eventually turn off) zillions of
> emails, I'm just requesting the system of sending materials to me and
> Susan...and we will make sure the Committee knows of them one way or the
> other.
>
> Does that sound ok?
>
> Mary
>
> P.S. When I missed the phone call in Utah, Rob, I followed it up with a
> conversation with Kevin Matthews --- he didn't think it was necessary to
> re-schedule the three-way call.
>
>
>
>
> At 04:56 PM 11/12/2007, Rob Zako wrote:
> > Dear Mary, Larry and Susan (and Kevin, John and Dennis),
> >
> > In order to keep the technical committees better coordinated, I sometimes
> > send materials to not only the Land Use and Transportation Committee but
> > also to the Environment Committee (knowing that I will also get the
> Mapping
> > Subcommittee as well). For example, I believe I sent the materials for
> the
> > upcoming Land Use and Transportation Committee to the Environment
> Committee
> > as well, as the charge to both committees is a bit unclear and I thought
> it
> > would be helpful for others see how the LUT Committee is interpreting our
> > charge. I realize that with the attachments, that was a significant
> amount
> > of information and apologize if some people are feeling overwhelmed by
> > emails and attachments. (The Work Plan, in three parts, was an especially
> > large set of attachments.)
> >
> > Would it be better to just send notices of meetings with links of where
> to
> > find materials? Or am I not understanding your concern?
> >
> > I do think that the two (or three) technical committees should be
> > coordinating more, rather than less, and communication is essential to
> that
> > end.
> >
> > Mary, before the last full WEC meeting you asked to coordinate the work
> of
> > the Environment, LUT and Mapping Committees, so we scheduled a conference
> > call for the chairs of the three technical committees: Environment -
> Mary,
> > LUT - Rob, Mapping - Kevin. But Kevin and I were unable to reach you in
> Utah
> > so that coordination never did occur.
> >
> > In any case, I am interesting in figuring out ways to coordinate better,
> > more effectively, and more efficiently.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Mary O'Brien <mob at uoregon.edu>
> > > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:33:37 -0800
> > > To: <LarryReed at jrhweb.com>, Rob Zako <rob at friends.org>
> > > Cc: Susan Ban <sban at sheltercare.org>, Mary O'Brien <mob at uoregon.edu>
> > > Subject: A small request
> > >
> > > Hi, Larry and Rob,
> > >
> > > When I send an email as co-chair to the WEC-Environment Committee, and
> you
> > > have a response to the email, it would be great if you just responded
> to
> > me
> > > and Susan Ban as the other Co-Chair instead of the whole Committee,
> given
> > > that neither of you are on the Env. Committee. I try to keep the number
> of
> > > emails down, and Susan and I would bring the info you send in response
> to
> > > something I (or Susan has sent) to the committee as a whole.
> > >
> > > Hope that's ok with you. Of course, if you're sending something to the
> > > whole WEC that's fine...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Mary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mary O'Brien
> > > P.O. Box 12056
> > > Eugene, OR 97440
> > > phone: 541/485-6886
> > > fax: 541/485-7429
> > > Note: Old email address mob at darkwing.uoregon.edu
> > > has been changed to mob at uoregon.edu
>
>
>
> Mary O'Brien
> P.O. Box 12056
> Eugene, OR 97440
> phone: 541/485-6886
> fax: 541/485-7429
> Note: Old email address mob at darkwing.uoregon.edu
> has been changed to mob at uoregon.edu
>
>
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